1 00:00:26,870 --> 00:00:22,960 [Music] 2 00:00:30,260 --> 00:00:26,880 this hope radio for the masses Atlanta 3 00:00:31,549 --> 00:00:30,270 between July 8 1947 she's on the air 4 00:00:34,130 --> 00:00:31,559 force with has announced that a flying 5 00:00:36,410 --> 00:00:34,140 this - found and they're all in the 6 00:00:39,940 --> 00:00:36,420 possession of the army the game is 7 00:00:42,790 --> 00:00:39,950 rigged changed the game changer I 8 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:42,800 occasionally think how quickly our 9 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:47,100 differences worldwide would vanish if we 10 00:00:51,250 --> 00:00:49,770 were facing an alien threat from outside 11 00:00:52,940 --> 00:00:51,260 his way 12 00:00:56,410 --> 00:00:52,950 [Music] 13 00:01:01,690 --> 00:00:58,870 fade to black with your host Jimmy 14 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:01,700 Church on a game changer Radio Network 15 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:10,969 you're out to get to the 16 00:01:17,050 --> 00:01:13,370 1985 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:17,060 [Music] 18 00:01:21,219 --> 00:01:18,890 you are listening to Thank You black 19 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:21,229 with Jimmy judge on the game change in 20 00:01:27,330 --> 00:01:23,360 that word 21 00:01:35,410 --> 00:01:27,340 good evening fade to black 22 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,420 this spoke radio for the masses 23 00:01:40,810 --> 00:01:37,360 [Music] 24 00:01:43,630 --> 00:01:40,820 yeah man today's Tuesday March 25 00:01:45,310 --> 00:01:43,640 thirteenth two thousand eighteen seventy 26 00:01:47,770 --> 00:01:45,320 two days into the new year just two 27 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:47,780 hundred and ninety three days left we're 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:50,650 live from a bunker somewhere in downtown 29 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:53,090 Burbank California and I would like to 30 00:01:57,810 --> 00:01:54,650 welcome everybody listening all around 31 00:02:00,550 --> 00:01:57,820 the world all across the United States 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:00,560 hither and thither to and fro back and 33 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:02,450 forth up and down east and west north 34 00:02:08,980 --> 00:02:04,790 and south far and near 35 00:02:11,530 --> 00:02:08,990 this is fade to black for KJ Sierra the 36 00:02:13,540 --> 00:02:11,540 game changer network and K GRA the 37 00:02:18,580 --> 00:02:13,550 planet I'm your host Jimmy Church what 38 00:02:22,870 --> 00:02:18,590 is crackin how you doin big big big big 39 00:02:25,810 --> 00:02:22,880 night on the show tonight because 40 00:02:27,610 --> 00:02:25,820 tonight we have very special guest grant 41 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:27,620 Cameron is here from the great white 42 00:02:33,610 --> 00:02:30,560 north and he's here to help us analyze 43 00:02:36,220 --> 00:02:33,620 the new go fast video that was just 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:36,230 released from Tom DeLonge and to the 45 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:41,810 stars Academy this is video number three 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:46,810 the number shall be three all right 47 00:02:54,729 --> 00:02:51,290 tomorrow night radio host Tim Ray joins 48 00:02:58,509 --> 00:02:54,739 the show I was on Tim's show out in 49 00:03:02,710 --> 00:02:58,519 Atlanta Oh a couple of weeks ago maybe 50 00:03:05,140 --> 00:03:02,720 three three weeks ago and so I wanted 51 00:03:06,970 --> 00:03:05,150 him on fade to black and this is like 52 00:03:09,580 --> 00:03:06,980 maybe you're a great host you really 53 00:03:11,290 --> 00:03:09,590 know this subject matter and and so 54 00:03:12,970 --> 00:03:11,300 we're gonna do that on Wednesday very 55 00:03:16,170 --> 00:03:12,980 excited about that and the things that 56 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:16,180 he's got going on so that will be a 57 00:03:20,170 --> 00:03:18,530 tomorrow night Thursday night's another 58 00:03:21,610 --> 00:03:20,180 Fator night Jon Rappoport is going to be 59 00:03:24,820 --> 00:03:21,620 here with there's no more fake newsroom 60 00:03:27,310 --> 00:03:24,830 live and followed by open lines all 61 00:03:30,009 --> 00:03:27,320 night long and that is Thursday night 62 00:03:35,559 --> 00:03:30,019 callin numbers 3 to 3 8 2 5 5 0 for 5 or 63 00:03:38,020 --> 00:03:35,569 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 10 64 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:38,030 is a very big night we've got grant 65 00:03:44,530 --> 00:03:40,400 Cameron here to discuss the go-fast 66 00:03:48,099 --> 00:03:44,540 video and in less than two hours it is 67 00:03:52,750 --> 00:03:48,109 now 7 p.m. the countdown is starting 7 68 00:03:57,369 --> 00:03:52,760 p.m. here on the Pacific coast at 9 p.m. 69 00:03:58,149 --> 00:03:57,379 Pacific midnight East Coast time in two 70 00:04:02,080 --> 00:03:58,159 hours 71 00:04:04,839 --> 00:04:02,090 on stellar dot-com will open for 72 00:04:07,569 --> 00:04:04,849 registration ok so that's gonna go on 73 00:04:09,369 --> 00:04:07,579 tonight just jump over it's very simple 74 00:04:12,369 --> 00:04:09,379 oh by the way hello to everybody on the 75 00:04:15,189 --> 00:04:12,379 punker cam we've opened up the show 76 00:04:17,259 --> 00:04:15,199 tonight also on YouTube live something 77 00:04:20,650 --> 00:04:17,269 we don't do that often but tonight's a 78 00:04:24,779 --> 00:04:20,660 very big show so I need as many people 79 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:24,789 out there to to get with it and not only 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:27,110 listen to what Grant has to say about 81 00:04:33,909 --> 00:04:29,210 this new go fast video very important 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:33,919 subject but also on stellar and so all 83 00:04:39,580 --> 00:04:35,690 you have to do is use the promo code 84 00:04:42,909 --> 00:04:39,590 Jimmy J I am my gos sign up over a non 85 00:04:45,159 --> 00:04:42,919 stellar reserved your screen name get 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:45,169 that done register go through the 87 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:48,490 process and get it done because it's 88 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:51,110 kicking off alright 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:53,449 I'm Stella the new social media platform 90 00:05:01,060 --> 00:04:57,250 is going to launch in the third quarter 91 00:05:04,540 --> 00:05:01,070 by the time that rolls around all of the 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:04,550 good screen names and all that stuff 93 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:06,289 into the ones that kept we're talking 94 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:07,940 about you know a million people or more 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:10,610 are going to register between now and 96 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:12,490 then 97 00:05:17,529 --> 00:05:15,409 so had something in my throat it's weird 98 00:05:19,719 --> 00:05:17,539 you know that's what's the beauty of the 99 00:05:21,219 --> 00:05:19,729 COFF button in live radio you don't hear 100 00:05:25,149 --> 00:05:21,229 the COFF but you hear that little blank 101 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:25,159 spot right you hear the blank spot the 102 00:05:28,209 --> 00:05:26,930 clearing of the throat and then you'll 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:28,219 always hear the hose caught and come 104 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:29,690 back and go I had to use the cough 105 00:05:32,379 --> 00:05:31,280 button so what's worse the cough button 106 00:05:36,370 --> 00:05:32,389 are clearing of the throat 107 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:36,380 I don't know so anyway yeah that kicks 108 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:40,639 off in two hours and so what what a 109 00:05:45,339 --> 00:05:43,250 night it's ultimately going to be and I 110 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:45,349 can't wait I can't wait for everybody's 111 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:46,960 stuff now 112 00:05:51,930 --> 00:05:49,930 Rita is going to especially when the 113 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:51,940 countdown starts 114 00:05:56,940 --> 00:05:54,610 we will tweet everything out it is on 115 00:06:00,930 --> 00:05:56,950 stellar dot-com it's very simple the 116 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:00,940 promo code is Jimmy and right now there 117 00:06:09,540 --> 00:06:06,390 are no other promo codes that's it and 118 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:09,550 go and get your screen name okay follow 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:12,730 us on Twitter by the way at Jay Church 120 00:06:16,890 --> 00:06:14,890 radio Luka John are you going to 121 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:16,900 register of course 122 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:19,210 wait midnight east coast or west coast 123 00:06:28,410 --> 00:06:22,240 I'm Scott I just said Twitter so funny I 124 00:06:32,670 --> 00:06:28,420 just said in 2 hours 9 p.m. Pacific and 125 00:06:34,770 --> 00:06:32,680 midnight tonight east coast in two hours 126 00:06:36,990 --> 00:06:34,780 that's how you got to remember two hours 127 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:37,000 I'm gonna tell you on the air 128 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:40,240 what time don't you worry about it 129 00:06:45,810 --> 00:06:43,090 alright you guys are funny follow us on 130 00:06:46,890 --> 00:06:45,820 twitter at JT Rydia facebook youtube 131 00:06:49,170 --> 00:06:46,900 everything is fade to black 132 00:06:51,420 --> 00:06:49,180 Jimmy Church Jimmy Church radio gain 133 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:51,430 change or you can go follow like and 134 00:06:55,380 --> 00:06:53,770 subscribe right now over at Jimmy tertia 135 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:55,390 comm if you want to jump into the 136 00:07:00,600 --> 00:06:57,970 sandbox get into this oh I didn't say 137 00:07:02,490 --> 00:07:00,610 hello in any of the chat rooms so let me 138 00:07:06,570 --> 00:07:02,500 do that now so everybody knows I'm doing 139 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:06,580 this in real time good evening hello to 140 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:10,930 the chat room see see now you guys know 141 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:12,070 you got to hear me punch it and 142 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:13,330 everything and now you're reading it 143 00:07:17,010 --> 00:07:15,190 right there see it's all in real time 144 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:17,020 come and hang out with us we've got to 145 00:07:21,450 --> 00:07:19,450 chatrooms kg ra the planet got a 146 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:21,460 chatroom there of course we've got the 147 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:25,120 Spreaker chatroom we have twitter we 148 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:27,310 have the sandbox which is hashtag if to 149 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:30,070 be and of course the fade to black 150 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:33,280 questions which is hashtag f to be Q you 151 00:07:40,410 --> 00:07:35,410 can also email throughout the show there 152 00:07:43,260 --> 00:07:40,420 used to be a thing something in my 153 00:07:46,530 --> 00:07:43,270 throat called email people don't really 154 00:07:49,410 --> 00:07:46,540 you know do you email anymore if it's an 155 00:07:53,370 --> 00:07:49,420 emergency email remember how big email 156 00:07:55,980 --> 00:07:53,380 was how what a big deal it was now you 157 00:08:00,270 --> 00:07:55,990 know with texting and cell phones and 158 00:08:00,549 --> 00:08:00,280 and and Twitter and social media you 159 00:08:03,309 --> 00:08:00,559 know 160 00:08:05,259 --> 00:08:03,319 it's kind of weird so we saw the post 161 00:08:07,569 --> 00:08:05,269 office nearly go out of business 162 00:08:09,429 --> 00:08:07,579 do you really care about mail that 163 00:08:11,909 --> 00:08:09,439 arrives at your house anymore 164 00:08:14,919 --> 00:08:11,919 what arrives in the mail at your house 165 00:08:17,739 --> 00:08:14,929 used to be bills right and junk mail of 166 00:08:20,679 --> 00:08:17,749 course but but bills all that stuff is 167 00:08:24,159 --> 00:08:20,689 done online now you know so what what 168 00:08:27,249 --> 00:08:24,169 comes in the mail how about a printer 169 00:08:29,829 --> 00:08:27,259 not a printer in your home but a printer 170 00:08:32,439 --> 00:08:29,839 that prints stuff you know the junk mail 171 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:32,449 coupons and things like that that's got 172 00:08:37,059 --> 00:08:35,120 to be going out of business you know I 173 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:37,069 can't think of anybody that's sitting 174 00:08:43,209 --> 00:08:38,990 right you know I want to open a print 175 00:08:47,439 --> 00:08:43,219 shop you know what you go and do that 176 00:08:49,449 --> 00:08:47,449 we're gonna do on stellar comm all right 177 00:08:51,189 --> 00:08:49,459 that's right 9:00 p.m. midnight tonight 178 00:08:53,230 --> 00:08:51,199 you can officially register for on 179 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:53,240 stellar get your username now all you 180 00:08:59,530 --> 00:08:56,110 got to do is use the promo code Jimmy ji 181 00:09:02,470 --> 00:08:59,540 mmm why it's on stellar dot-com this 182 00:09:04,780 --> 00:09:02,480 platform it incorporates the best of 183 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:04,790 everything okay that includes Facebook 184 00:09:11,499 --> 00:09:07,600 and Twitter and Instagram and and 185 00:09:13,660 --> 00:09:11,509 YouTube and and all the best of every 186 00:09:17,290 --> 00:09:13,670 going back to AOL the best of everything 187 00:09:19,809 --> 00:09:17,300 is on this new platform but it is 188 00:09:22,449 --> 00:09:19,819 completely focused on our community all 189 00:09:24,309 --> 00:09:22,459 of it from UFOs to conspiracy to 190 00:09:26,199 --> 00:09:24,319 consciousness and all things lost 191 00:09:29,790 --> 00:09:26,209 history and everything that falls in 192 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:29,800 between all categories ghosts Bigfoot 193 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:33,370 near-death experiences everything is 194 00:09:38,889 --> 00:09:37,370 included okay and all the categories are 195 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:38,899 there you'll see everything broken down 196 00:09:43,929 --> 00:09:40,850 at 9 p.m. tonight 197 00:09:47,019 --> 00:09:43,939 in two short hours this is the first 198 00:09:51,309 --> 00:09:47,029 social platform to be based on the 199 00:09:55,569 --> 00:09:51,319 blockchain and because it is first you 200 00:09:57,999 --> 00:09:55,579 will see other websites and and things 201 00:09:59,710 --> 00:09:58,009 like this try to use and should try to 202 00:10:01,960 --> 00:09:59,720 use the blockchain and incorporate in 203 00:10:04,540 --> 00:10:01,970 with the stuff that they are doing and 204 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:04,550 which is great the blockchain could be 205 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:06,800 use for a lot of different things we're 206 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:09,889 gonna use it for our community and it's 207 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:12,410 going to be awesome and our community is 208 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:13,610 huge and now 209 00:10:18,190 --> 00:10:15,649 we have our own platform no censoring 210 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:18,200 you can do what you want there's not 211 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:20,570 going to be any pullback or or any 212 00:10:25,630 --> 00:10:22,730 influence from the company non of that 213 00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:25,640 is going to occur everything that has 214 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:28,040 been going down on YouTube lately and 215 00:10:33,250 --> 00:10:29,649 everything that's been going down with 216 00:10:35,290 --> 00:10:33,260 with Twitter and what appears to be in 217 00:10:38,740 --> 00:10:35,300 facebook which appears to be censoring 218 00:10:43,449 --> 00:10:38,750 in fake news all of that stuff right you 219 00:10:44,980 --> 00:10:43,459 just don't know now we have our own and 220 00:10:47,380 --> 00:10:44,990 it is badass 221 00:10:50,110 --> 00:10:47,390 the look of it the feel what it is and 222 00:10:52,329 --> 00:10:50,120 it's for our community don't forget that 223 00:10:54,430 --> 00:10:52,339 that launch is tonight 224 00:10:56,170 --> 00:10:54,440 all right the official launch the 225 00:10:59,230 --> 00:10:56,180 platform where all the action kicks off 226 00:11:01,900 --> 00:10:59,240 will be in third quarter the platform 227 00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:01,910 will have its own token economy and for 228 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:03,470 the first time our community will have a 229 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:06,410 way to support members of our community 230 00:11:10,660 --> 00:11:08,450 who have something to say who have done 231 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:10,670 the research who want to write a book or 232 00:11:16,569 --> 00:11:13,490 or have a book out or want to make a new 233 00:11:18,340 --> 00:11:16,579 documentary or they have a documentary 234 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:18,350 out on everything 235 00:11:23,050 --> 00:11:21,110 ideas sightings maybe you've shot a 236 00:11:25,329 --> 00:11:23,060 video on your cell phone and you want to 237 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:25,339 show the world you know what when you do 238 00:11:31,210 --> 00:11:27,250 that with another platform like Facebook 239 00:11:36,220 --> 00:11:31,220 you know who makes the money everybody 240 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:36,230 but you and that's not cool it's not now 241 00:11:42,759 --> 00:11:39,680 you have a way to go out and get things 242 00:11:45,250 --> 00:11:42,769 done so think about that alright on 243 00:11:47,530 --> 00:11:45,260 stellar is gonna prove to be one of the 244 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:47,540 most visionary social platforms in 245 00:11:53,050 --> 00:11:50,690 history and it kicks off tonight in less 246 00:11:54,310 --> 00:11:53,060 than two hours and a couple of things 247 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:54,320 really quick don't forget that the e 248 00:12:00,639 --> 00:11:57,890 SETI Roadshow is gonna be moving up the 249 00:12:02,829 --> 00:12:00,649 west coast and up into Washington and if 250 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:02,839 you want to go participate head over to 251 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:04,790 a Jimmy Trivette radio.com and click on 252 00:12:09,220 --> 00:12:07,730 their banner which is right there click 253 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:09,230 on the banner look at the full schedule 254 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:11,690 for the e City Roadshow and go and hang 255 00:12:16,180 --> 00:12:14,089 out with Ashley and the crew it's 256 00:12:21,850 --> 00:12:16,190 heading up the west coast right now all 257 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:21,860 right now the big news in DC mm-hmm and 258 00:12:26,790 --> 00:12:24,890 besides on stellar and Grant Cameron 259 00:12:28,769 --> 00:12:26,800 being on the show tonight 260 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:28,779 is our next event which is contact in 261 00:12:34,530 --> 00:12:31,570 the desert but it's June 1st through the 262 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:34,540 4th 2018 in Indian Wells Palm Springs 263 00:12:40,139 --> 00:12:36,700 California it is the biggest most 264 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:40,149 focused largest funnest UFO convention 265 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:42,670 in the world that's going down this June 266 00:12:48,210 --> 00:12:46,000 1st now I had mentioned about a month 267 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:48,220 ago and this will be up and active in a 268 00:12:52,199 --> 00:12:50,050 couple of days hopefully it'll be done 269 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:52,209 before the end of the week and I can 270 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:54,370 announce it either tomorrow night or 271 00:13:00,030 --> 00:12:56,890 Wednesday night on the show is there's 272 00:13:02,430 --> 00:13:00,040 an award ceremony awards dinner awards 273 00:13:06,180 --> 00:13:02,440 banquet that is going down on Saturday 274 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:06,190 night and we will have a fade to black 275 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:10,600 table okay and I think and I think I 276 00:13:13,650 --> 00:13:12,010 just got off the phone with them today I 277 00:13:18,090 --> 00:13:13,660 think there's gonna be 10 tickets 278 00:13:20,430 --> 00:13:18,100 available for sale for you to purchase 279 00:13:22,139 --> 00:13:20,440 for you and and your significant other 280 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:22,149 or maybe people hi yourself but you kind 281 00:13:25,889 --> 00:13:23,470 of want to bring somebody to something 282 00:13:29,670 --> 00:13:25,899 like this and have dinner with Rita and 283 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:29,680 I and and go through the awards banquet 284 00:13:34,319 --> 00:13:31,930 a ceremony it's hosted by George Noory 285 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:34,329 and of course he's going to be there and 286 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:38,529 and all of the awards winners are going 287 00:13:42,449 --> 00:13:41,050 to be there it's gonna be great so we'll 288 00:13:45,540 --> 00:13:42,459 make that announcement here in a couple 289 00:13:47,370 --> 00:13:45,550 of days and I can't wait to have dinner 290 00:13:49,530 --> 00:13:47,380 of the table full of fate or not it's 291 00:13:50,370 --> 00:13:49,540 going to be so cool so that is June 1st 292 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:50,380 through the force 293 00:13:54,810 --> 00:13:52,510 click on the banner over at Jimmy 294 00:13:57,510 --> 00:13:54,820 Trudeau calm contact in the desert then 295 00:14:00,810 --> 00:13:57,520 coming up right after that our soul Tech 296 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:00,820 Gathering which is up at ISA D ranch and 297 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:02,800 that is this August August 9th through 298 00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:05,230 the 12th and it's very simple click on 299 00:14:09,060 --> 00:14:06,940 the banners at Jimmy Church rodeo calm 300 00:14:11,069 --> 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deserve they 343 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:07,810 are truly truly household names now 344 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:10,690 David Draiman today is 45 345 00:16:18,990 --> 00:16:15,910 also today rapper actor common is 46 how 346 00:16:24,570 --> 00:16:19,000 high common cool dude 46 years old today 347 00:16:27,750 --> 00:16:24,580 on the same history OTD 1781 English 348 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:27,760 astronomer William Herschel discovers 349 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:32,010 Uranus the seventh planet from the Sun 350 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:39,490 1781 but how did the Annunaki right how 351 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:44,290 did the Egyptians how did the doggins 352 00:16:51,660 --> 00:16:48,640 how did what appears to be I mean all of 353 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:51,670 the ancient cultures other know about 354 00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:53,110 the planets out there 355 00:16:59,569 --> 00:16:56,079 when you know william herschel with a 356 00:17:02,190 --> 00:16:59,579 telescope didn't find it until 1781 357 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:02,200 right you ever stop and think about that 358 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:10,919 technology I get it when I look up at 359 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:15,610 the stars today with my night vision or 360 00:17:19,789 --> 00:17:17,679 with the telescope or with my naked eye 361 00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:19,799 and I look at the Stars they look like 362 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:26,079 stars how is it that you were able to 363 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:30,210 before computers and technology and and 364 00:17:36,539 --> 00:17:33,210 extremely technical measurement devices 365 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:36,549 how are you able to know the difference 366 00:17:42,930 --> 00:17:39,910 between a planet and a star you know and 367 00:17:46,940 --> 00:17:42,940 that a planet is orbiting the Sun how 368 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:46,950 how are you able to do that I'm just how 369 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:52,690 how if you were measuring the the 370 00:17:57,659 --> 00:17:55,570 precession right the precession of the 371 00:18:01,980 --> 00:17:57,669 earth you know the wobble that is there 372 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:01,990 every 26,000 years you know 72 degrees 373 00:18:10,770 --> 00:18:05,530 right okay so and and you and you look 374 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:10,780 at that and you can measure a degree one 375 00:18:18,030 --> 00:18:14,290 degree every 72 years of movement and 376 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:18,040 right ok so I get it today but how if 377 00:18:22,110 --> 00:18:19,570 you were putting up a stick in the 378 00:18:24,090 --> 00:18:22,120 ground a stick and you're measuring and 379 00:18:27,390 --> 00:18:24,100 you've got some kind of and I'm talking 380 00:18:29,070 --> 00:18:27,400 about 500 years ago right and and you've 381 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:29,080 got some stick in the ground in your 382 00:18:34,049 --> 00:18:31,090 movie you know how do you know that the 383 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,059 ground hasn't moved right a little 384 00:18:38,909 --> 00:18:36,640 earthquake a little shift and that 385 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:38,919 little shift now cancels out the degree 386 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:40,870 or all of the measurements that you were 387 00:18:45,900 --> 00:18:43,929 doing how how are you doing this and if 388 00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:45,910 the ground moved aren't all measurements 389 00:18:51,539 --> 00:18:47,919 off if you ain't know if this was a 390 00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:51,549 thousand years ago I don't there are 391 00:18:56,159 --> 00:18:54,040 some things this knowledge has been 392 00:18:59,220 --> 00:18:56,169 handed down this knowledge has been 393 00:19:02,040 --> 00:18:59,230 given to us man I'm serious 394 00:19:04,919 --> 00:19:02,050 there's no way it doesn't make sense to 395 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:04,929 me there are other things that come into 396 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:06,640 play and 397 00:19:15,930 --> 00:19:11,350 if you think about it the way that we 398 00:19:18,780 --> 00:19:15,940 moved with plate movement and the 399 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:18,790 continents that wasn't even a proven 400 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:22,000 theory proven theory until the 1960s it 401 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:24,840 was kind of talked about in the 1950s 402 00:19:31,740 --> 00:19:28,140 but nobody knew about this 403 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:31,750 nobody knew so nobody around the world 404 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:35,890 was thinking about the ground moving to 405 00:19:44,130 --> 00:19:40,510 another spot in the ocean right it's 406 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:44,140 weird but it was going on so how is it 407 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:47,260 possible it's because it was all given 408 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:48,910 to us think about that for a second 409 00:20:01,500 --> 00:19:56,400 three of the four the number today is 410 00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:01,510 three three of the four members of 411 00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:04,320 Metallica that's Lars Ulrich Kirk 412 00:20:12,419 --> 00:20:08,380 Hammett and bassist Jason Newsted all 413 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:12,429 three divorced their wives during the 414 00:20:18,270 --> 00:20:16,360 recording of the Black Album why because 415 00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:18,280 they almost didn't get that album done 416 00:20:23,940 --> 00:20:21,870 and the stress the troubled production 417 00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:23,950 everything that was going on in the 418 00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:26,799 black album they divorced their wives 419 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:31,809 and that is a figure of fact three three 420 00:20:37,230 --> 00:20:35,290 the number today is three all right 421 00:20:38,909 --> 00:20:37,240 everyone needs to check out Fox's news 422 00:20:41,850 --> 00:20:38,919 tweet about Trump's commitments about 423 00:20:43,950 --> 00:20:41,860 space and that we may have a space for 424 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:43,960 us yeah I heard about that today he was 425 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:46,960 uh he was hanging out Gilligan kept 426 00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:49,570 moving the professor's measuring stick I 427 00:20:56,010 --> 00:20:52,470 know he did that's funny that's funny 428 00:20:59,640 --> 00:20:56,020 yeah he was uh speaking to the Marines 429 00:21:02,549 --> 00:20:59,650 today and said very interesting he goes 430 00:21:06,860 --> 00:21:02,559 if Hillary would have gotten elected you 431 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:06,870 the Marines would not be going to Mars 432 00:21:12,930 --> 00:21:10,240 yeah yeah pretty interesting got a read 433 00:21:16,190 --> 00:21:12,940 between the lines when any President 434 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:16,200 speaks but that today was pretty 435 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:19,710 interesting no doubt about it 436 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:22,350 all right tonight a very special guest 437 00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:24,120 grant Cameron's gonna be here in a few 438 00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:27,360 short minutes live from Canada I think 439 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:29,460 he's up in Manitoba right I think grant 440 00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:32,960 is in yeah he's in Winnipeg Manitoba 441 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:36,870 we're gonna talk about the new video 442 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:39,120 that was just released from to the stars 443 00:21:47,090 --> 00:21:42,990 Academy and Tom DeLonge and I want 444 00:21:49,010 --> 00:21:47,100 grants take on things that's what's most 445 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:49,020 important here so I want grants take on 446 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:52,710 it and and the previous videos too as 447 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:54,210 well we're gonna talk about that look at 448 00:21:59,870 --> 00:21:57,330 them all as a whole and what information 449 00:22:04,910 --> 00:21:59,880 he has got so we're gonna do that 450 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:04,920 but I I well I mentioned this last night 451 00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:06,450 on the show but when I have a guest on 452 00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:07,500 it's about the guest 453 00:22:14,570 --> 00:22:10,400 it's about grant and grants information 454 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:14,580 my take on it doesn't matter there's no 455 00:22:21,290 --> 00:22:16,850 reason for me to do that so I'm going to 456 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:21,300 present that take now I kind of spoke 457 00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:24,960 about this last night but because Steve 458 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:29,160 Marilla was on with us and and Steve and 459 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:31,890 I are very open with each other but let 460 00:22:37,220 --> 00:22:33,930 me share you this I'll watch the video 461 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:37,230 again today a bunch of times and I'm 462 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:39,570 trying to with these huge monitors here 463 00:22:44,180 --> 00:22:42,210 and I'm able to to blow it up and and 464 00:22:50,830 --> 00:22:44,190 stop it and freeze it and take a look at 465 00:22:53,810 --> 00:22:50,840 it is this this is my take there's 466 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:53,820 missing footage at the beginning and at 467 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:55,740 the end that's the first thing there's 468 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:00,240 missing footage and I doubt that this is 469 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:03,210 all there is to the this clip or the 470 00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:04,980 other clips in general but let's focus 471 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:09,620 on this go fast video so I want to know 472 00:23:16,490 --> 00:23:12,810 what was said and what what happened 473 00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,500 after this clip stops why did they stop 474 00:23:21,170 --> 00:23:18,480 it where they did at the most exciting 475 00:23:24,350 --> 00:23:21,180 part of this whoo we got it what is that 476 00:23:25,930 --> 00:23:24,360 boom the clip stops I'm not I'm not 477 00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:25,940 buying that 478 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:29,280 okay here's shadows of your mind fade or 479 00:23:32,989 --> 00:23:31,890 not so what do you consider to be the 480 00:23:35,469 --> 00:23:32,999 greatest hoax is 481 00:23:39,019 --> 00:23:35,479 conspiracies of the fringe community 482 00:23:40,849 --> 00:23:39,029 answer on a postcard interesting and if 483 00:23:42,739 --> 00:23:40,859 you haven't entered already you can 484 00:23:46,179 --> 00:23:42,749 still win a full weekend pass to contact 485 00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:46,189 in the desert oh that's cool that's cool 486 00:23:51,409 --> 00:23:49,289 shadows of your mind magazine dot co uk 487 00:23:53,719 --> 00:23:51,419 okay all right I'll retweet that that's 488 00:23:56,479 --> 00:23:53,729 a that's good see some things will just 489 00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:56,489 get a retweet and that right there is 490 00:24:02,659 --> 00:23:59,279 one of them you want to know how I 491 00:24:06,649 --> 00:24:02,669 retweet something just make it good all 492 00:24:07,249 --> 00:24:06,659 right boom done and that just got a 493 00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:07,259 retweet 494 00:24:14,569 --> 00:24:12,329 I even hashtag it how can I can I get a 495 00:24:17,209 --> 00:24:14,579 free pass for contact in the desert I'd 496 00:24:19,239 --> 00:24:17,219 like to go that would be cool the 497 00:24:24,919 --> 00:24:19,249 greatest hoaxes 498 00:24:27,829 --> 00:24:24,929 you mean like Billy Mayer Oh Todd in 499 00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:27,839 here did I say that it's hot in here 500 00:24:33,129 --> 00:24:30,479 it's hot hot you mean like Billy Mayer 501 00:24:35,749 --> 00:24:33,139 Oh hot in here 502 00:24:40,339 --> 00:24:35,759 you mean a hoax like that like Billy 503 00:24:41,449 --> 00:24:40,349 Mayer the Billy Mayer hoax like that all 504 00:24:42,769 --> 00:24:41,459 right I know there's some people out 505 00:24:46,609 --> 00:24:42,779 there that still believe that Billy 506 00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:46,619 Mayer is real so I don't want to offend 507 00:24:55,099 --> 00:24:52,159 anybody out there back to this video the 508 00:24:57,769 --> 00:24:55,109 the most exciting part is what we're 509 00:25:00,799 --> 00:24:57,779 seeing there where's the rest of the 510 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:00,809 video where's the second half of it what 511 00:25:06,679 --> 00:25:04,529 was said before this right where did the 512 00:25:08,509 --> 00:25:06,689 object come from how long were they 513 00:25:11,659 --> 00:25:08,519 tracking it who saw it first 514 00:25:17,829 --> 00:25:11,669 you know no mention of speed on this air 515 00:25:20,919 --> 00:25:17,839 speed we can go out with our radar and 516 00:25:24,859 --> 00:25:20,929 telemetry with all these modern 517 00:25:27,699 --> 00:25:24,869 electronics in an f-18 Hornet and we are 518 00:25:30,439 --> 00:25:27,709 able to track identify Friend or Foe 519 00:25:33,979 --> 00:25:30,449 everything is on the line we know with 520 00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:33,989 airspeed the altitude direction right 521 00:25:38,419 --> 00:25:35,609 well where's all of that information 522 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:38,429 here all right size of the plane where 523 00:25:44,509 --> 00:25:40,849 is all of that distance you know now 524 00:25:47,790 --> 00:25:44,519 that that's all interesting to me I when 525 00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:47,800 I see this vid 526 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:52,030 I have a big letdown there is nothing 527 00:25:57,660 --> 00:25:55,210 there I really want something to be 528 00:26:00,750 --> 00:25:57,670 there I want I don't have anything you 529 00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:00,760 as my audience I don't have a reason for 530 00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:03,430 you to go and look at this video man you 531 00:26:06,930 --> 00:26:04,840 got to see this man as object it's 532 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:06,940 amazing you can see this and and and 533 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:09,370 they there's nothing there for this 534 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:13,090 video all right that video that object 535 00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:17,890 could be anything could be anything you 536 00:26:24,570 --> 00:26:21,220 know what it really could be it could be 537 00:26:27,630 --> 00:26:24,580 Tiger Woods on a driving range hitting 538 00:26:28,770 --> 00:26:27,640 balls out into the ocean that's what you 539 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:28,780 know that's what it looks like little 540 00:26:35,070 --> 00:26:31,330 golf ball you know and it's just a low 541 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:35,080 drive just straight out right a little 542 00:26:40,380 --> 00:26:36,970 bit of backspin kind of hanging in the 543 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:40,390 air it could be anything you know and 544 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:42,970 that's that's I don't know I don't know 545 00:26:50,850 --> 00:26:47,050 I don't know it looks so small and if I 546 00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:50,860 was to judge where it's at above the 547 00:26:54,930 --> 00:26:52,990 waves what it looks like to me there and 548 00:26:57,810 --> 00:26:54,940 the water in the background if I'm just 549 00:27:00,720 --> 00:26:57,820 gonna be somebody that's guessing I'm 550 00:27:03,930 --> 00:27:00,730 gonna say this thing is 6 inches it's a 551 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:03,940 softball that's that's you know it could 552 00:27:08,970 --> 00:27:06,250 be anything I don't know so if it's that 553 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:08,980 small and it's white man maybe it's a 554 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:11,050 friggin seagull and a glide pattern I 555 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:14,530 don't know but we don't know what it is 556 00:27:18,540 --> 00:27:17,020 before and what it is after in this 557 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:18,550 video that they're talking about that 558 00:27:24,150 --> 00:27:21,370 they've seen and and and so forth how 559 00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:24,160 long was this thing out there you know 560 00:27:27,630 --> 00:27:26,080 and that's that's the problem that I 561 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:27,640 have with this you can't show a video 562 00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:33,090 and I believe what is it 15 seconds long 563 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:36,430 you know what is it 15 30 seconds it's 564 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:39,220 short it's not enough there there needed 565 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:41,190 to be more meat on that bone for me 566 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:44,050 there's not enough there and so I can't 567 00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:45,640 wait maybe I'm missing something 568 00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:47,590 grant is gonna be on the show tonight 569 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:50,020 he's always here to set me straight so 570 00:27:54,060 --> 00:27:52,750 let's see what he's got to say I don't 571 00:27:57,270 --> 00:27:54,070 want to take the wind out of the sails 572 00:27:58,190 --> 00:27:57,280 for anybody here with this video I would 573 00:28:01,700 --> 00:27:58,200 love 574 00:28:03,259 --> 00:28:01,710 of your opinions I see what you guys are 575 00:28:05,629 --> 00:28:03,269 saying here and that's great I'm 576 00:28:07,940 --> 00:28:05,639 skeptical to say that watched it before 577 00:28:10,249 --> 00:28:07,950 the show total bust it had about as much 578 00:28:12,019 --> 00:28:10,259 substance as Rosie O'Donnell's social 579 00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:12,029 intelligence well you don't gotta take a 580 00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:14,700 poke at Rosie come on keep it keep the 581 00:28:17,479 --> 00:28:15,929 personal stuff out but yeah you're 582 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:17,489 probably right 583 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:19,049 I think that the pilots were very 584 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:20,970 excited to have locked on the target 585 00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:23,850 yeah you're right about that that was 586 00:28:27,649 --> 00:28:25,919 pretty interesting probably hard to lock 587 00:28:30,049 --> 00:28:27,659 on a target that's so small you know 588 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:30,059 golf ball or whatever it is probably 589 00:28:36,409 --> 00:28:32,399 hard to lock on to a seagull or a bird 590 00:28:40,159 --> 00:28:36,419 probably not that easy which is probably 591 00:28:47,180 --> 00:28:40,169 what's going on here that SRV guitar 592 00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:47,190 hanging in the back all right all right 593 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:50,129 Gonza meadow right on you know it 594 00:28:53,479 --> 00:28:51,809 that'll get a retweet I got to get out 595 00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:53,489 of here I'm gonna get grant Cameron in 596 00:28:59,359 --> 00:28:56,609 here and I'm gonna kick this show off 597 00:29:02,479 --> 00:28:59,369 we've got 90 minutes to on stellar 598 00:29:06,349 --> 00:29:02,489 people get ready 90 minutes when I come 599 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:06,359 back we'll be joined from Winnipeg Grant 600 00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:09,090 Cameron talking about that go fast 601 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:10,710 videos gonna be a great night on the 602 00:29:16,009 --> 00:29:12,809 show hello to everybody out there on 603 00:29:18,649 --> 00:29:16,019 YouTube on the bunker cam everybody in 604 00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:18,659 the chat rooms hello Twitter all right 605 00:29:25,099 --> 00:29:20,190 let's do this got a great show ahead 606 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:25,109 army host jimmy church on kjc are the 607 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:28,559 game changer Network in kg ra the planet 608 00:29:53,260 --> 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here from the snowy 681 00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:51,140 great white north up in Winnipeg and 682 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:55,620 also in 90 minutes on stellar will open 683 00:34:01,040 --> 00:33:58,050 its registration and will have all of 684 00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:01,050 that up in the countdown for everybody 685 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:03,240 so it'll be 9 p.m. Pacific 12:00 686 00:34:08,390 --> 00:34:06,510 midnight Eastern Time go and get your 687 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:08,400 screen name and get register don't 688 00:34:13,910 --> 00:34:10,770 forget to use the promo code Jimmy J I 689 00:34:17,150 --> 00:34:13,920 am my this portion of the broadcast is 690 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:17,160 proudly brought to you by life change t 691 00:34:22,670 --> 00:34:20,130 get the t-dot-com though the banners are 692 00:34:27,650 --> 00:34:22,680 over at Jimmy Church radio calm use the 693 00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:27,660 promo code fader FA de are short simple 694 00:34:33,350 --> 00:34:29,940 easy fader and you will get yourself 695 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:33,360 free shipping grant Cameron has been a 696 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:36,960 UFO researcher since 1975 he was 697 00:34:41,150 --> 00:34:39,330 recognized as both the Leeds Conference 698 00:34:43,910 --> 00:34:41,160 international researcher of the year and 699 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:43,920 the UFO Congress researcher of the year 700 00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:46,110 he's a world-renowned expert on UFOs 701 00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:48,060 conspiracies government cover-ups and 702 00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:49,620 has spent decades watching and 703 00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:51,800 chronicling developments around 704 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:54,750 extraterrestrial contact of course he is 705 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:57,930 the author of Charlie Red Star one of 706 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:00,720 the great contact UFO sightings and 707 00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:02,970 experiences in history happened up there 708 00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:04,590 in Canada when he was a kid 709 00:35:08,930 --> 00:35:06,750 that's amazing the Charlie red stars 710 00:35:11,330 --> 00:35:08,940 story when it comes to Grant I cannot 711 00:35:12,590 --> 00:35:11,340 hear that experience enough it is 712 00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:12,600 absolutely incredible 713 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,820 everybody parked their cars they were 714 00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:17,520 listening to this was hey hey hey grant 715 00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:18,990 I'm gonna pull you in early before I 716 00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:21,660 finish your introduction that that 717 00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:23,790 sighting that was back in the 70s right 718 00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:29,190 so yeah so all the hits back then like 719 00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:31,320 people that have their cars pulled over 720 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:33,300 you would put your speakers on top of 721 00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:35,250 the cars remember those days so yeah 722 00:35:42,770 --> 00:35:37,260 everybody was up there listening to like 723 00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:42,780 Foghat and Hart right watching Charlie 724 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:44,940 Red Star right that's that's essentially 725 00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:46,770 what was going on 726 00:35:51,020 --> 00:35:49,020 I had to I had to just throw you into 727 00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:51,030 the bus because look he got understand 728 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:52,680 grant you and I have the same age you 729 00:35:57,110 --> 00:35:55,110 know who Fogg had is the rest of our 730 00:35:58,940 --> 00:35:57,120 audience doesn't okay so we got that 731 00:36:01,280 --> 00:35:58,950 going for us tonight we're going to 732 00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:01,290 discuss the new go-fast video that was 733 00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:03,390 just released by the to the stars 734 00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,420 Academy and Tom DeLonge it is the third 735 00:36:09,830 --> 00:36:08,160 video that they have released of course 736 00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:09,840 we'll talk about all three in their 737 00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:12,630 entirety and and maybe even throw in a 738 00:36:16,850 --> 00:36:14,790 number one mylar balloon for good 739 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:16,860 measure and we'll talk about all of this 740 00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:18,570 tonight and the other goings-on around 741 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:21,120 the UFO community please welcome back 742 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:22,890 our good friend from the great white 743 00:36:28,940 --> 00:36:25,410 north the best grant Cameron grant 744 00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,950 welcome how are you tonight that's doing 745 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:30,480 just great Jimmy Church thanks for 746 00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:31,830 having me on I appreciate it 747 00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:33,480 well you know you've been doing this for 748 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:38,340 a very very long time grant and 1975 to 749 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:40,410 me seems like yesterday but we need to 750 00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:43,050 be serious here that's a long time and 751 00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:50,040 to have this explosive UFO subject out 752 00:36:55,850 --> 00:36:52,800 there for the first time for you for all 753 00:37:00,200 --> 00:36:55,860 of us like this in the mass media since 754 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:00,210 December of 2017 that these are exciting 755 00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:02,370 times at least the subject is out there 756 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:05,760 and it's being discussed how are you 757 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:07,200 right now do you have the same 758 00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:09,510 enthusiasm that you had back in December 759 00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:12,140 you were on the show with me then we had 760 00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:14,700 that important night where we brought 761 00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:20,910 you on how are you today actually I hate 762 00:37:27,290 --> 00:37:24,390 the story I just I'm not much I'm into 763 00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:27,300 it down there I call it the rat hole and 764 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:29,550 I'm so far down that I can't even see 765 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:33,090 the surface mm-hmm but it's a story that 766 00:37:37,610 --> 00:37:35,370 I've followed and I always point out to 767 00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:37,620 people because people think that what 768 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:39,960 happened today happened in 1975 and 769 00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:43,110 you're very true that in 1975 we had no 770 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,660 idea about anything we had Travis Walton 771 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:47,520 was abducted the same year who I had my 772 00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:49,650 experience but other than that there was 773 00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:51,300 like no abductions there was no crashed 774 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:53,670 alien so there was no Roswell there was 775 00:37:58,730 --> 00:37:56,490 there was basically nothing and now we 776 00:38:01,079 --> 00:37:58,740 have this sort of world that we've sort 777 00:38:04,019 --> 00:38:01,089 of waited for 778 00:38:05,759 --> 00:38:04,029 for sort of the justification that we 779 00:38:08,579 --> 00:38:05,769 were right all along that I wasn't crazy 780 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:08,589 in 1975 when I saw this object and yet 781 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:10,930 when it came I mean I was pretty much 782 00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,700 into it I was into it long before Tom 783 00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:14,079 DeLonge started like most of the 784 00:38:18,089 --> 00:38:16,720 characters in the play I've known about 785 00:38:22,319 --> 00:38:18,099 for quite a while 786 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:22,329 right and and yet when it happened it's 787 00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:24,730 the the idea of being inside the UFO 788 00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:26,230 community because it can be very very 789 00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:28,630 cruel very sort of you know you're 790 00:38:32,489 --> 00:38:30,940 always fighting with people and that's 791 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:32,499 just not me I really don't like that 792 00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:34,390 part of the the story but in terms of 793 00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:37,660 what you're pointing out the idea that I 794 00:38:44,579 --> 00:38:43,150 I called it disclosure in December now 795 00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:44,589 would change it to confirmation because 796 00:38:46,859 --> 00:38:45,430 that's what they're doing they're not 797 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:46,869 doing disclosure they're doing 798 00:38:51,259 --> 00:38:48,670 confirmation they're doing what Bob 799 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:51,269 Bigelow talked about in a 2013 interview 800 00:38:56,579 --> 00:38:55,089 with George Knapp on coast to coast and 801 00:38:59,069 --> 00:38:56,589 that's what I sort of encouraged people 802 00:39:00,569 --> 00:38:59,079 that people think that you know 803 00:39:02,220 --> 00:39:00,579 everything's always been the same but 804 00:39:05,489 --> 00:39:02,230 what happens with the Tom DeLonge story 805 00:39:07,470 --> 00:39:05,499 or all this kind of stuff is you got to 806 00:39:09,989 --> 00:39:07,480 go back and you got to listen to the 807 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:09,999 interviews from five years ago or ten 808 00:39:12,569 --> 00:39:10,569 years ago 809 00:39:14,130 --> 00:39:12,579 and suddenly you hear them completely 810 00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:14,140 differently and so at Bob Bigelow said 811 00:39:20,099 --> 00:39:17,920 in 2013 George asked me said are you in 812 00:39:24,269 --> 00:39:20,109 favor of disclosure and he said no I'm 813 00:39:26,309 --> 00:39:24,279 not he said I need confirmation we don't 814 00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:26,319 need disclosure we need confirmation 815 00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:29,200 we need this story to be put out there 816 00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:32,529 to the American people just the fact the 817 00:39:38,999 --> 00:39:36,190 phenomenas here it's real and that's it 818 00:39:41,180 --> 00:39:39,009 stop right there and a couple years down 819 00:39:45,329 --> 00:39:41,190 the road then you can do disclosure and 820 00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:45,339 what I've realized in this story since 821 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:47,950 December this is exactly what they did 822 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:49,930 they did confirmation it's not 823 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:51,730 disclosure because disclosure means you 824 00:39:55,859 --> 00:39:53,890 stand the president up and you say ETS 825 00:39:59,700 --> 00:39:55,869 are here it's real all this kind of 826 00:40:01,950 --> 00:39:59,710 stuff there there is no there's no 827 00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:01,960 discussion of aliens and that's what if 828 00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:03,940 you listen to the interview that Bigelow 829 00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:06,670 said in 2013 you don't need to talk 830 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:08,380 about aliens you don't need to talk 831 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:10,630 about they're here ETS all this kind of 832 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:13,760 stuff you just need to say UFOs exist 833 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:16,010 that's it and and so will you see the 834 00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:18,770 the operation the to the stars operation 835 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:19,940 that's exactly what they're doing 836 00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:22,490 there's no discussion of et it's what 837 00:40:27,609 --> 00:40:24,710 they should have done in 1947 you should 838 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:27,619 have said in 1947 they're here 839 00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:30,530 we don't know what it is and you go from 840 00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:32,000 there so there's almost like trying to 841 00:40:37,390 --> 00:40:35,180 redo the the the playbook but I 842 00:40:39,310 --> 00:40:37,400 encourage people like in fact what I 843 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:39,320 tell people with the Tom DeLonge thing 844 00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:41,930 because people always get sort of it's a 845 00:40:46,330 --> 00:40:44,390 all mover likes 24/7 news that we watch 846 00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:46,340 the story and then we forget about it we 847 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:47,359 go on to the next story I'm going to 848 00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:49,190 next story and one of the interviews you 849 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:50,750 did I say is one of the most important 850 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:53,570 one of this entire story and that is the 851 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:55,250 interview you did with with Tom DeLonge 852 00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:56,450 and I tell people all the time 853 00:40:59,410 --> 00:40:57,920 I said if you want to know what's going 854 00:41:02,080 --> 00:40:59,420 on you got to listen to the Jimmy Church 855 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:02,090 interview with Tom with with Tom DeLonge 856 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:04,490 that tells you exactly you know how he 857 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:07,609 started how he was he was set up how he 858 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:09,890 they brought him into this operation 859 00:41:13,330 --> 00:41:11,330 they moved him around from place to 860 00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:13,340 place or stuff it was very open but 861 00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:15,920 people sort of get into the position 862 00:41:20,890 --> 00:41:18,920 where they they're waiting for the next 863 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:20,900 story they're waiting for the next video 864 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:22,730 and that's why we get set up so easy is 865 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:24,770 because everybody thinks disclosure is 866 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:25,730 the next story 867 00:41:30,490 --> 00:41:28,010 when you know and I tell people I say 868 00:41:32,260 --> 00:41:30,500 there's only there's three options you 869 00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:32,270 you either are disclosing which means 870 00:41:38,109 --> 00:41:35,660 you stand up somebody and you say you 871 00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:38,119 know the president somebody of authority 872 00:41:41,590 --> 00:41:40,070 or the CIA director and say this is for 873 00:41:43,450 --> 00:41:41,600 real you show the bodies the crafts you 874 00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:43,460 have the you know all the big networks 875 00:41:49,150 --> 00:41:45,200 in there and and you sort of out 876 00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:49,160 everything or you cover-up and that 877 00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:50,300 means you just shut up and we'll talk 878 00:41:54,310 --> 00:41:52,430 about it like Canada or Australia or 879 00:41:55,660 --> 00:41:54,320 Germany or whatever where nobody knows 880 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:55,670 anything about what's going on about 881 00:41:58,810 --> 00:41:57,170 UFOs you just shut up and don't talk 882 00:42:01,000 --> 00:41:58,820 about it right they're doing something 883 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:01,010 in between they're doing this and that's 884 00:42:06,070 --> 00:42:03,050 what Bigelow called it confirmation 885 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:06,080 they're confirming the story and and so 886 00:42:10,030 --> 00:42:08,570 I've watched it very very closely I mean 887 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:10,040 I wrote the book managing magic before 888 00:42:15,490 --> 00:42:13,130 this thing hold started and what I was 889 00:42:18,010 --> 00:42:15,500 told a year ago is exactly what happened 890 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:18,020 and I and even a year ago I never would 891 00:42:21,820 --> 00:42:19,690 have believed it what I was told is 892 00:42:24,609 --> 00:42:21,830 high-level government officials will 893 00:42:27,010 --> 00:42:24,619 come forward they will out themselves 894 00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:27,020 and they will say this thing's for real 895 00:42:31,210 --> 00:42:29,990 and I went yeah right come on the 896 00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:31,220 high-level government officials are 897 00:42:34,270 --> 00:42:32,510 going to actually come out that's exact 898 00:42:36,430 --> 00:42:34,280 what happened you had you Elizondo come 899 00:42:38,410 --> 00:42:36,440 out you had Steve Justice come out you 900 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:38,420 had Jim semi van came out and they 901 00:42:41,830 --> 00:42:39,890 identified who they were where 902 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:41,840 high-level government officials retired 903 00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:46,130 and the stories for real and so I I've 904 00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:49,310 watched it very carefully but I just 905 00:42:57,010 --> 00:42:54,470 it's it's so so much material it's such 906 00:42:59,740 --> 00:42:57,020 a driven story that as I tell people now 907 00:43:01,300 --> 00:42:59,750 I really I really don't even have time 908 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:01,310 to do emails I don't have time to do 909 00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:02,810 anything there's just so much material 910 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:05,119 happening so many people talking it's 911 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:07,610 such an intense story and yet it's this 912 00:43:11,650 --> 00:43:10,010 thing where when you put it out there's 913 00:43:14,530 --> 00:43:11,660 all this fighting and stuff like that 914 00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:14,540 and this is the sort of disclosure that 915 00:43:18,609 --> 00:43:17,119 I'm sort of telling people now is that 916 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:18,619 what is happening this is confirmation 917 00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:21,290 and what is happening and I'm pretty 918 00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:24,110 sure this we've been Tillerson 919 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:26,960 we've been fired the UFO community the 920 00:43:30,850 --> 00:43:29,090 UFO community has been bypassed if you 921 00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:30,860 take a look at what they're doing right 922 00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:33,140 they are totally ignoring the UFO 923 00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:34,700 community because the UFO community is 924 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:35,840 sort of they're like a like a 925 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:38,000 three-year-old kid you know we want you 926 00:43:43,180 --> 00:43:40,010 know prove this to us and you see with 927 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,190 the the to the stars story people are 928 00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:45,200 saying why didn't they do this why 929 00:43:47,770 --> 00:43:46,760 didn't he do that it's like why didn't 930 00:43:50,050 --> 00:43:47,780 he prove it to me why didn't they 931 00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:50,060 produce this evidence that evidence it's 932 00:43:55,690 --> 00:43:51,470 because it's not about the UFO community 933 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:55,700 they basically went to the news media 934 00:43:59,590 --> 00:43:57,410 they said we're gonna bypass the UFO 935 00:44:01,540 --> 00:43:59,600 community because all it is is fighting 936 00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:01,550 infighting you're never gonna convince 937 00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:04,400 them they went to the three major news 938 00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:07,369 networks and they coordinated this thing 939 00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:10,190 there's no way that's three major news 940 00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:15,680 networks outlets went the same day with 941 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:17,390 a major story that took them months to 942 00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:20,510 do and all went on the same morning with 943 00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:23,510 that story that shows high coordination 944 00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:27,500 and so what they have done is that they 945 00:44:34,210 --> 00:44:30,760 have produced two these high-level 946 00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:34,220 reporters and Blumenthal is the one at 947 00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:36,350 the New York Times and everybody ignores 948 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:38,390 the other ones there's work is the 949 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:39,890 actually the big guy he's The Washington 950 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:40,650 Post 951 00:44:45,980 --> 00:44:43,440 he won two Pulitzer Prizes and then you 952 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:45,990 have the political reporter and what you 953 00:44:49,490 --> 00:44:47,609 have is these are national security 954 00:44:52,279 --> 00:44:49,500 reporters who are used to working in the 955 00:44:54,740 --> 00:44:52,289 Pentagon so what they do is they go in 956 00:44:56,779 --> 00:44:54,750 and they they hear the story and they go 957 00:44:58,549 --> 00:44:56,789 to their Pentagon sources we're off the 958 00:45:00,589 --> 00:44:58,559 record and they say is this for real and 959 00:45:02,690 --> 00:45:00,599 they get told yes this thing's for real 960 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:02,700 and they run with the story all three 961 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:05,490 net wealth Rhee newspapers run with the 962 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,250 story then when the UFO community tries 963 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:10,319 to confirm it what we're getting now and 964 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,730 this is a discussion that's been going 965 00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:13,680 on today and yesterday and stuff like 966 00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:16,200 this is this whole idea that when you 967 00:45:22,089 --> 00:45:18,049 file an fo a and apparently there's been 968 00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:22,099 1500 to 2000 fo II's filed on on this 969 00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:27,089 the a tip program then you get this john 970 00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,190 greenwald was bringing up yet today 971 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:31,680 yesterday i guess it was no no worse no 972 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:33,930 records no nothing responsive there's 973 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:36,690 nothing here and and i know cuz i was 974 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:38,490 dealing with a reporter who asked 975 00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:39,930 hillier cutting the first question he 976 00:45:44,539 --> 00:45:41,940 did me a favor when this thing first 977 00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:44,549 broke in december he filed on foi a and 978 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,849 he was told right upfront no we did not 979 00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:49,440 release these video so you have this big 980 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:51,720 controversy going on the UFO community 981 00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:54,650 cannot confirm these videos are 982 00:45:59,450 --> 00:45:57,359 confirmed by the defense department they 983 00:46:02,210 --> 00:45:59,460 say there's no records we have no record 984 00:46:04,279 --> 00:46:02,220 of the 88 program we don't have anything 985 00:46:06,799 --> 00:46:04,289 and they're playing the same old game 986 00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:06,809 and yet when you take a look you say 987 00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:09,480 well how did the New York Times fall for 988 00:46:13,099 --> 00:46:11,400 this story and I know that when the 989 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:13,109 story broke there was already trouble 990 00:46:17,180 --> 00:46:15,450 with the videos and a friend of mine 991 00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:17,190 contacted Blumenthal he was friends with 992 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:19,859 Blumenthal and I'll tell you if this had 993 00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,930 been happening in public he probably 994 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:23,520 would have killed my friend he was so 995 00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:25,770 angry he said do you think I'm stupid 996 00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:27,569 and then and that may brought up an 997 00:46:31,339 --> 00:46:29,880 important point you have the Washington 998 00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:31,349 Post guy he's got two Pulitzer Prize 999 00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:34,020 national security guy 1000 00:46:38,930 --> 00:46:36,390 lots of Pentagon sources and you have 1001 00:46:40,940 --> 00:46:38,940 Blumenthal 42 years at the New York 1002 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:40,950 Times or whatever and these guys have 1003 00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:43,410 all these these sources so they must 1004 00:46:46,099 --> 00:46:44,910 have been told something otherwise they 1005 00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:46,109 wouldn't remember the story they had 1006 00:46:50,569 --> 00:46:48,630 authoritative sources that said yes this 1007 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:50,579 thing's for real and that's all they're 1008 00:46:54,530 --> 00:46:51,770 doing is they're convincing these guys 1009 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:54,540 so you get all these videos and the UFO 1010 00:46:58,010 --> 00:46:56,490 committees fighting about it oh it's Tom 1011 00:46:59,900 --> 00:46:58,020 DeLonge is gathering money they put up 1012 00:47:03,340 --> 00:46:59,910 the balloon photo it's all a big mess 1013 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:03,350 it's just a big mess and and yet you see 1014 00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:06,450 Fox picked it up today CNN picked it up 1015 00:47:10,490 --> 00:47:08,790 yesterday and they got all the major 1016 00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,500 news media so they're not interested in 1017 00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:12,720 you and I they could care less whether 1018 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:14,760 you and I believe this story that all 1019 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:16,650 they're interested in is putting it to 1020 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:20,370 CNN big news media outlets and and do 1021 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:22,650 the confirmation thing and if you take a 1022 00:47:27,380 --> 00:47:25,530 look at the CNN story or the the it's 1023 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:27,390 all goes the same way it's like oh the 1024 00:47:32,810 --> 00:47:30,210 Pentagon has just released another UFO 1025 00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:32,820 video no not not questioning anything 1026 00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:35,310 not a no the number of problems that are 1027 00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:36,960 brought up in UFO community about Tom 1028 00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:38,460 DeLonge gathering money or all this kind 1029 00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:39,750 of stuff they've totally ignored that 1030 00:47:42,980 --> 00:47:41,280 because they're doing custom cut and 1031 00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:42,990 paste journalism they've given him the 1032 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:44,310 story and they're running with the story 1033 00:47:48,110 --> 00:47:46,650 no little green man the media has 1034 00:47:50,930 --> 00:47:48,120 completely been turned around and I 1035 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:50,940 would say what the objective was was to 1036 00:47:55,580 --> 00:47:53,250 get the general public shifted over and 1037 00:47:57,260 --> 00:47:55,590 I would be interesting to see a poll of 1038 00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:57,270 how much is shifted I would not be 1039 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:00,780 surprised if the poll in the public has 1040 00:48:05,060 --> 00:48:02,730 shifted five or ten percent more people 1041 00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:05,070 say yeah this thing's for real because 1042 00:48:08,270 --> 00:48:06,390 that's the way it's been presented it's 1043 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:08,280 like the major news media are talking 1044 00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:10,170 about it like it had like it happened 1045 00:48:14,990 --> 00:48:12,390 and and there was no riots nobody burned 1046 00:48:17,180 --> 00:48:15,000 down Washington DC it they basically 1047 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:17,190 came out and said yeah we have a 1048 00:48:21,590 --> 00:48:19,050 government program we're working on UFOs 1049 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:21,600 and they got away with it and it's it's 1050 00:48:26,540 --> 00:48:24,570 out there and now they're gonna play 1051 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:26,550 this thing for a while longer with the 1052 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:27,810 videos and all this kind of stuff and 1053 00:48:31,970 --> 00:48:29,490 then they'll move on to the next state 1054 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:31,980 where are they but right now don't talk 1055 00:48:35,570 --> 00:48:33,450 about aliens don't talk about this kind 1056 00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,580 of stuff and the story that sort of 1057 00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:37,680 confirms that the UFO community has been 1058 00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,790 fired is you know that my friend Melinda 1059 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,400 Leslie we we had an arrangement we got 1060 00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,280 an interview with Jim semi man who was 1061 00:48:53,210 --> 00:48:49,680 the they had the sort of the director of 1062 00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:53,220 to the stars and I didn't realize she's 1063 00:48:56,510 --> 00:48:55,140 going to talk about this next week we're 1064 00:49:00,050 --> 00:48:56,520 in San Francisco doing this big 1065 00:49:03,140 --> 00:49:00,060 disclosure deal all these lectures with 1066 00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,150 Danny Sheehan and her and I and she was 1067 00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:05,760 told by Jim Sam even you know the story 1068 00:49:10,460 --> 00:49:08,310 that Lou Elizondo 1069 00:49:13,340 --> 00:49:10,470 go to UFO Congress and the story was 1070 00:49:15,710 --> 00:49:13,350 that he had this medical procedure that 1071 00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:15,720 had to be done and that's probably true 1072 00:49:20,780 --> 00:49:19,020 that he had a medical procedure but open 1073 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:20,790 minds offered to go and interview him 1074 00:49:27,410 --> 00:49:24,890 and then to the stars came back and said 1075 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:27,420 I'll just send us the questions we'll 1076 00:49:30,980 --> 00:49:29,130 interview them and that's what's called 1077 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:30,990 controlling the narrative right where 1078 00:49:35,150 --> 00:49:33,210 they they they do the interviews they 1079 00:49:37,550 --> 00:49:35,160 ask the questions they want and what Jim 1080 00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:37,560 semi van said to Melinda is that not 1081 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:38,880 somebody into the stars but somebody 1082 00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:41,370 connected to the stars told him not to 1083 00:49:45,350 --> 00:49:43,380 go to stay away from UFO conferences and 1084 00:49:46,580 --> 00:49:45,360 I know this is true because I know one 1085 00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:46,590 of the people associated with to the 1086 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:48,540 stars I remember many years ago I was at 1087 00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,690 a conference and this person I wanted 1088 00:49:55,070 --> 00:49:53,520 them to go into an into a lecture and 1089 00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:55,080 they would not go in the room people 1090 00:49:57,740 --> 00:49:56,190 were talking don't go in the room don't 1091 00:49:58,850 --> 00:49:57,750 go in the room and it was like they 1092 00:50:00,200 --> 00:49:58,860 don't want to be seen with us like 1093 00:50:01,490 --> 00:50:00,210 they'll go there and give their lecture 1094 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:01,500 they'll stand on the hall interview 1095 00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:03,090 people or they'll do interviews and 1096 00:50:07,370 --> 00:50:05,760 stuff like that but what Lu Elizondo was 1097 00:50:11,090 --> 00:50:07,380 told was you don't go to these 1098 00:50:12,590 --> 00:50:11,100 conferences because number one you're 1099 00:50:14,180 --> 00:50:12,600 going to add be asked all bunch of 1100 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:14,190 hardball questions they're just gonna 1101 00:50:16,970 --> 00:50:15,810 ask you like real tough questions 1102 00:50:18,830 --> 00:50:16,980 they're not gonna ask you anything easy 1103 00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:18,840 and it's gonna be hard to control a 1104 00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:21,540 narrative and secondly because he's got 1105 00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:23,670 the same job as Richard Doty Lou 1106 00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:24,990 Elizondo is a counterintelligence 1107 00:50:28,910 --> 00:50:27,000 officer working for the Department of 1108 00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:28,920 Defense the same as Richard Doty and 1109 00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:30,780 because you're in a counterintelligence 1110 00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:33,390 officer it doesn't matter how you answer 1111 00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:35,910 the questions if you go to UFO Congress 1112 00:50:40,130 --> 00:50:38,520 or go on the Jimmy Church show nobody's 1113 00:50:41,870 --> 00:50:40,140 gonna believe you anyway so there's no 1114 00:50:43,220 --> 00:50:41,880 point in you doing this and that's where 1115 00:50:44,780 --> 00:50:43,230 they're doing this thing to controlling 1116 00:50:48,020 --> 00:50:44,790 the narrative but I think it has worked 1117 00:50:50,210 --> 00:50:48,030 extremely well in in terms of them 1118 00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:50,220 getting this message out that you now 1119 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:52,920 have major media all the major media are 1120 00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:55,410 just playing the story that we've got 1121 00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:56,730 another release we've got another video 1122 00:51:00,260 --> 00:50:58,650 the Pentagon is going along with this 1123 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:00,270 thing there's no more jokes there's no 1124 00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:02,610 more little green men's and I think it's 1125 00:51:05,660 --> 00:51:03,870 brilliant what they've done I mean it's 1126 00:51:07,250 --> 00:51:05,670 really really I think they've done a 1127 00:51:09,110 --> 00:51:07,260 good job and yet in the UFO community 1128 00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:09,120 it's basically I they've messed this 1129 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:10,680 thing up Tom DeLonge has been can 1130 00:51:15,110 --> 00:51:12,660 because he you know he messed up a bunch 1131 00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:15,120 of interviews and stuff like that and to 1132 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:16,740 me it's it's controlling the narrative 1133 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:19,050 that they they wanted this confirmation 1134 00:51:22,250 --> 00:51:20,610 thing to take place too 1135 00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:22,260 move the American people to the to the 1136 00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:24,540 point where they all believe yes it's 1137 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:25,500 for real the government's in 1138 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:27,810 investigating UFOs UFOs are real and 1139 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:29,970 once they get to that point they'll move 1140 00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:31,890 to the next step which is where are they 1141 00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:34,710 from all this kind of stuff what did you 1142 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:37,440 think about we're gonna hit a commercial 1143 00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:39,810 here at the top of the hour so let's 1144 00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:42,420 watch the clock but yeah in this new 1145 00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:44,040 video we'll talk about the other two 1146 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:45,660 we've got a long show in front of us we 1147 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:48,210 can do that too as well but with this 1148 00:51:56,060 --> 00:51:53,850 new video what did you think when when 1149 00:51:58,730 --> 00:51:56,070 he first saw it what do you think you're 1150 00:52:01,730 --> 00:51:58,740 even looking at well I mean it's it's 1151 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:01,740 just another UFO video I mean it's it's 1152 00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:03,330 not as good as the others I mean it's 1153 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:05,280 just like a little orb zipping along the 1154 00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,970 the ocean and my my opinion of UFO 1155 00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:11,040 videos is always the same thing it's a 1156 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:11,910 total waste of time 1157 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:14,490 UFO photos and UFO videos are a total 1158 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:16,650 waste of time they are there to let 1159 00:52:21,050 --> 00:52:19,050 they're like candy for the public people 1160 00:52:23,420 --> 00:52:21,060 love looking at UFO videos they love 1161 00:52:26,210 --> 00:52:23,430 hearing UFO stories they love looking at 1162 00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:26,220 UFO photos but I know from 1975 that's 1163 00:52:30,830 --> 00:52:29,070 how I started I had my my sighting and I 1164 00:52:32,330 --> 00:52:30,840 thought oh my goodness people are gotta 1165 00:52:35,930 --> 00:52:32,340 see this I dragged all my friends out 1166 00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:35,940 there and they they basically you know 1167 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:39,440 go home and I spend my whole time 1168 00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:41,850 investigating going to this town 1169 00:52:45,710 --> 00:52:44,220 interviewing all these people putting 1170 00:52:47,180 --> 00:52:45,720 this whole book out and then the 1171 00:52:48,830 --> 00:52:47,190 publisher that should have published it 1172 00:52:50,060 --> 00:52:48,840 said Mr Cameron you may believe in this 1173 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:50,070 kind of stuff count me among the 1174 00:52:54,410 --> 00:52:51,810 unbelievers and I suddenly realized that 1175 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:54,420 UFO sightings watching lights in the sky 1176 00:52:59,420 --> 00:52:56,970 really doesn't prove anything to anybody 1177 00:53:01,910 --> 00:52:59,430 like you had a Durant exciting in 1178 00:53:03,380 --> 00:53:01,920 contact in the desert I had a dramatic 1179 00:53:04,820 --> 00:53:03,390 sighting you can tell your story and 1180 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,830 after five minutes of telling the story 1181 00:53:07,820 --> 00:53:06,000 you can watch people and you can see 1182 00:53:09,020 --> 00:53:07,830 their eyes glazing over did you 1183 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:09,030 interested for five minutes and after 1184 00:53:12,140 --> 00:53:10,170 that you really don't care because it 1185 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:12,150 doesn't really prove anything it's just 1186 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:14,730 another video but it does it's the kind 1187 00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:19,170 of stuff that that that Fox CNN all 1188 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:21,180 these media outlets will take because 1189 00:53:25,130 --> 00:53:22,650 people watch that kind of stuff and it's 1190 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:25,140 this it's almost like doing a Hollywood 1191 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:27,810 movie it's like sort of coming in the 1192 00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:30,810 back door subliminal advertising type 1193 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:32,460 thing where you're just getting across 1194 00:53:35,330 --> 00:53:34,170 the idea there's something there and 1195 00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:35,340 that's what I say whether it's the 1196 00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:38,730 reports or even the metal the Canadian 1197 00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,800 government had lots of metal and and the 1198 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:42,000 Canadian government said it might as 1199 00:53:45,380 --> 00:53:43,770 well be in the fourth dimension for what 1200 00:53:47,420 --> 00:53:45,390 it's worth when you try to figure out 1201 00:53:50,330 --> 00:53:47,430 what's going on my main what I've 1202 00:53:51,980 --> 00:53:50,340 maintained since 1975 the only thing 1203 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:51,990 that's important is the experiences the 1204 00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:53,370 people who are interacting with the 1205 00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:54,000 phenomena 1206 00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:56,520 you can't tell I'll guarantee you Jimmy 1207 00:54:02,450 --> 00:53:59,760 seventy years from now I'm long dead and 1208 00:54:03,530 --> 00:54:02,460 gone they'll still be playing that video 1209 00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:03,540 and everybody said what do you think 1210 00:54:06,860 --> 00:54:05,040 what do you think you take a look at the 1211 00:54:08,210 --> 00:54:06,870 best photographs we the best photographs 1212 00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:08,220 we supposedly had was the Trenton on 1213 00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:10,680 photograph from 1952 we're still arguing 1214 00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,720 about it will always be arguing about we 1215 00:54:15,260 --> 00:54:14,400 will never solve anything with a video 1216 00:54:15,470 --> 00:54:15,270 people said what do you think what do 1217 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:15,480 you think 1218 00:54:18,050 --> 00:54:16,890 and people will argue about it and then 1219 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:18,060 it's like when's the next video coming 1220 00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:20,490 out and it really doesn't solve anything 1221 00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:22,110 it just says something's going on 1222 00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:23,880 yes there's something dramatic going on 1223 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:26,040 something is unusual but in terms of 1224 00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,290 figuring out what it is like you see 1225 00:54:31,970 --> 00:54:30,240 that little orb zipping along the ocean 1226 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:31,980 you say well what planet is it from and 1227 00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,450 it's like well how am I gonna know is 1228 00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:35,040 and that's what it comes down to it's 1229 00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:37,350 just a light it's just a like a light in 1230 00:54:40,790 --> 00:54:39,270 the sky it's an interesting thing it 1231 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:40,800 looks interesting but it doesn't prove 1232 00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:41,250 anything 1233 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:43,710 well why release the video then I hear 1234 00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:45,690 you see this is the thing grant I'm 1235 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:48,480 listening to you and I agree with 1236 00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:50,730 everything that you just said but you're 1237 00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,240 also suggesting that they don't I'm 1238 00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:56,160 talking about to the Stars and DeLonge 1239 00:55:01,370 --> 00:54:59,370 and the Pentagon are trying to have it 1240 00:55:02,990 --> 00:55:01,380 both ways you're saying that the videos 1241 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:03,000 don't show anything why release it 1242 00:55:06,650 --> 00:55:04,050 doesn't matter we're gonna argue about 1243 00:55:09,830 --> 00:55:06,660 it forever but yet they're releasing it 1244 00:55:11,090 --> 00:55:09,840 to raise money and sell stocks so what 1245 00:55:12,110 --> 00:55:11,100 well no I don't believe I don't believe 1246 00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:12,120 that's gonna do it 1247 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:14,220 what they're doing they're not as I said 1248 00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:15,570 they're not interesting UFO community 1249 00:55:19,220 --> 00:55:17,430 then they're not there to prove to Jimmy 1250 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:19,230 Church or grant Cameron that this thing 1251 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:21,210 is for real it approves anything they're 1252 00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:24,930 doing the confirmation thing they're 1253 00:55:28,730 --> 00:55:26,700 going to the American people and they're 1254 00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:28,740 saying something's going on something 1255 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:30,510 look at this video something's going on 1256 00:55:34,460 --> 00:55:31,770 that's all it proves that's what they 1257 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:34,470 want that's step number one to get 90% 1258 00:55:39,290 --> 00:55:37,170 of the American public to say yes there 1259 00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:39,300 are video there are UFOs we don't know 1260 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:40,680 what they are and the government should 1261 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:41,970 be investigating and we should get 1262 00:55:44,570 --> 00:55:43,410 Congress to investigate that's all 1263 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:44,580 they're doing is they're getting people 1264 00:55:48,020 --> 00:55:46,170 interested most people aren't though 1265 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:48,030 before you show them a video they 1266 00:55:51,860 --> 00:55:50,130 say Ava's hoax just garbage it's like I 1267 00:55:54,530 --> 00:55:51,870 don't believe it but now it's like oh no 1268 00:55:56,510 --> 00:55:54,540 this no it's not just a video now it's a 1269 00:55:58,340 --> 00:55:56,520 video released by the Department of 1270 00:55:59,810 --> 00:55:58,350 Defense and the average person on the 1271 00:56:01,640 --> 00:55:59,820 street goes oh the government is 1272 00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:01,650 releasing stuff it might be for real 1273 00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:03,660 right right and see now there's a 1274 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:05,940 there's two problems with this video 1275 00:56:12,050 --> 00:56:09,690 number one you don't have what is before 1276 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:12,060 and after the video it's 15 seconds of 1277 00:56:17,570 --> 00:56:14,730 footage the most important stuff before 1278 00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,580 and after this section is not there 1279 00:56:22,940 --> 00:56:19,680 that's the first thing the second it's 1280 00:56:25,610 --> 00:56:22,950 the power of suggestion you suggest that 1281 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:25,620 this is a UFO video right that's what 1282 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:27,930 the headlines are so that's what you see 1283 00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:32,640 if the headline said a seagull looks 1284 00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:35,700 like UFO in video right people are gonna 1285 00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:38,070 look at it and see a seagull you can say 1286 00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:39,900 it's a golf ball you could say whatever 1287 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:41,880 you want the power of suggestion that's 1288 00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:43,650 what people are gonna see and that's 1289 00:56:48,770 --> 00:56:46,110 what's misleading and especially if you 1290 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:48,780 don't have what's in front and after 1291 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:52,170 this particular clip I have issues with 1292 00:56:56,660 --> 00:56:54,690 that but boats before and after is only 1293 00:56:58,910 --> 00:56:56,670 of interest to the UFO community the 1294 00:57:00,590 --> 00:56:58,920 average guy watches CNN could not care 1295 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:00,600 less about 15 seconds 1296 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:02,730 you're not questioned it's a UFO 1297 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:04,170 community that's fighting all these 1298 00:57:08,540 --> 00:57:06,570 issues they're not going after your folk 1299 00:57:12,290 --> 00:57:08,550 mean they're just making people in the 1300 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:12,300 public say oh the US the government has 1301 00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:14,970 released a bit another video on UFOs 1302 00:57:18,830 --> 00:57:16,440 they're suggesting they're saying yes 1303 00:57:19,250 --> 00:57:18,840 this is a UFO released by the US 1304 00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:19,260 government 1305 00:57:23,420 --> 00:57:21,240 that's all they want to do yeah but what 1306 00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:23,430 I'm suggesting here not for the UFO 1307 00:57:28,910 --> 00:57:26,070 community I'm saying in general what 1308 00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:28,920 could be there before or after the video 1309 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:31,470 could be something very telling like in 1310 00:57:36,620 --> 00:57:33,510 the beginning of the video check it out 1311 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:36,630 men were chasing these geese what if 1312 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:38,970 that's you know what that let's try to 1313 00:57:43,850 --> 00:57:41,010 lock on to these geese with our new 1314 00:57:46,070 --> 00:57:43,860 radar right what if that's what was said 1315 00:57:49,370 --> 00:57:46,080 at the beginning or how about at the end 1316 00:57:52,370 --> 00:57:49,380 you know and and when this thing crashes 1317 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:52,380 into the water and and it sinks because 1318 00:57:57,590 --> 00:57:55,650 it was a softball that was shot from a 1319 00:58:00,770 --> 00:57:57,600 water cannon off the deck of his ship 1320 00:58:01,970 --> 00:58:00,780 you don't know these things you know the 1321 00:58:03,530 --> 00:58:01,980 public doesn't care 1322 00:58:06,530 --> 00:58:03,540 all the public is told this this is a 1323 00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,540 UFO release by the US all right all 1324 00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:08,880 right exactly very interesting you know 1325 00:58:13,849 --> 00:58:10,830 cut out the stuff that actually you know 1326 00:58:17,540 --> 00:58:13,859 and just show you know five seconds of a 1327 00:58:20,180 --> 00:58:17,550 video at the height of this excitement 1328 00:58:22,490 --> 00:58:20,190 Wow we locked on to it locked on to what 1329 00:58:24,410 --> 00:58:22,500 and it's their seventh story they're 1330 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:24,420 absolutely selling the UFO story that's 1331 00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:26,250 what they're doing whatever manipulation 1332 00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:28,350 it is while you're selling the story if 1333 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:30,540 nobody is better than grant Cameron 1334 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:31,650 grant let's take a break right here 1335 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:33,570 let's continue this discussion right 1336 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:35,970 after this short break how much snow up 1337 00:58:39,830 --> 00:58:37,290 there are you guys in the middle of the 1338 00:58:41,390 --> 00:58:39,840 snowstorm it started to melt but don't 1339 00:58:43,310 --> 00:58:41,400 know we don't get much snow it's very 1340 00:58:44,990 --> 00:58:43,320 cold but it's not no snow there you go 1341 00:58:47,150 --> 00:58:45,000 well why do we call it the great white 1342 00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:47,160 north but 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01:02:10,409 --> 01:02:09,099 prevent any disease please consult your 1400 01:02:11,549 --> 01:02:10,419 health care professional about potential 1401 01:02:13,649 --> 01:02:11,559 interactions or other possible 1402 01:02:15,390 --> 01:02:13,659 complications before using any product 1403 01:02:17,099 --> 01:02:15,400 this is my - Hanks of the graylien 1404 01:02:19,409 --> 01:02:17,109 report and you're listening to jimmy 1405 01:02:21,419 --> 01:02:19,419 church on fade to black across the globe 1406 01:02:24,670 --> 01:02:21,429 on the game-changer radio network and 1407 01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:24,680 the one and only kgr a radio the planet 1408 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:44,780 [Music] 1409 01:02:50,660 --> 01:02:48,490 welcome back fade to black tonight grant 1410 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:50,670 Cameron is here not once but twice 1411 01:02:55,950 --> 01:02:54,610 researcher of the year now this segment 1412 01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:55,960 of fade to black is proudly brought to 1413 01:03:01,560 --> 01:02:58,930 you by River moon coffee makers of the 1414 01:03:03,930 --> 01:03:01,570 fade to black blend use the promo code F 1415 01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:03,940 to be bloom when you order get 15% off 1416 01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:06,070 it's that simple click on the banners 1417 01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:08,430 over at Jimmy church radio calm 1418 01:03:14,550 --> 01:03:10,510 researcher of the year not once but 1419 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:14,560 twice grant and when I have somebody 1420 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:16,810 like I respect you and I listen to you 1421 01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:19,810 and you settle me down and you get me 1422 01:03:25,110 --> 01:03:21,880 thinking clearly right and so 1423 01:03:26,460 --> 01:03:25,120 congratulations on that so let's let's 1424 01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:26,470 talk about some of the points that you 1425 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:29,760 just brought up in this in this video 1426 01:03:36,270 --> 01:03:33,730 why in my opinion this is just my 1427 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:36,280 opinion which matters very little but I 1428 01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:38,890 would have thought that the third shot 1429 01:03:44,540 --> 01:03:42,310 out of the cannon four to the stars 1430 01:03:48,570 --> 01:03:44,550 would have been something of 1431 01:03:52,580 --> 01:03:48,580 significance and when I saw this I just 1432 01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:52,590 went well okay that was my take and the 1433 01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:55,150 forget about the UFO community let's go 1434 01:03:59,310 --> 01:03:57,520 back to your point with everybody else 1435 01:04:02,070 --> 01:03:59,320 out there that's seeing this stuff 1436 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:02,080 including the mass media at some point 1437 01:04:07,110 --> 01:04:03,850 they're gonna do they're gonna have the 1438 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:07,120 same reaction right and if you can tag 1439 01:04:13,230 --> 01:04:09,250 UFO on it but if there's nothing in the 1440 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:13,240 video it's gonna matter not in T TSA in 1441 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:15,250 this big grand effort with the Pentagon 1442 01:04:20,550 --> 01:04:18,730 it's gonna fizzle yeah that's that's 1443 01:04:23,070 --> 01:04:20,560 that's possible depending what they have 1444 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:23,080 I will agree with you that the third one 1445 01:04:28,110 --> 01:04:25,930 was kind of sort of a letdown compared 1446 01:04:30,090 --> 01:04:28,120 to the first two but the question then 1447 01:04:32,460 --> 01:04:30,100 would be if we add the first 15 seconds 1448 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:32,470 before and after the third video or is 1449 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:34,690 there a video that they can release that 1450 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:36,250 is going to satisfy the UFO community 1451 01:04:44,790 --> 01:04:42,130 absolutely not they're it's a what I was 1452 01:04:46,350 --> 01:04:44,800 told today because I was again 1453 01:04:48,390 --> 01:04:46,360 questioning and I don't want to come 1454 01:04:51,150 --> 01:04:48,400 across to these guys like you know other 1455 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:51,160 there you're complaining again because 1456 01:04:53,730 --> 01:04:52,570 then they basically I don't want to get 1457 01:04:55,110 --> 01:04:53,740 fired either I mean they're at least 1458 01:04:57,150 --> 01:04:55,120 they're sort of talking to me I have 1459 01:04:58,070 --> 01:04:57,160 people that I can sort of interact and 1460 01:05:01,490 --> 01:04:58,080 say you know 1461 01:05:03,260 --> 01:05:01,500 ever but what I was told today is we've 1462 01:05:05,870 --> 01:05:03,270 got bigger fish to fry they really don't 1463 01:05:08,570 --> 01:05:05,880 care we got bigger it's like I don't 1464 01:05:10,940 --> 01:05:08,580 care if John Greenwald is having trouble 1465 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:10,950 getting stuff you know it's a very long 1466 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:12,210 are given give me a very specific 1467 01:05:16,190 --> 01:05:14,130 question that you want answered based on 1468 01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:16,200 fo Ayase it's like they really don't 1469 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:17,310 care about the questions anymore it's 1470 01:05:22,220 --> 01:05:20,850 it's sort of like they're they've got 1471 01:05:23,810 --> 01:05:22,230 the thing like I've heard the rumor 1472 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:23,820 about the 60-minute thing that's gonna 1473 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:25,610 happen they've got you know some big 1474 01:05:31,310 --> 01:05:29,130 official going on 60 minutes they I 1475 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:31,320 heard this and I put it managing magic 1476 01:05:36,290 --> 01:05:34,410 that this thing is is is planned with 1477 01:05:38,930 --> 01:05:36,300 dates and stuff like that this has been 1478 01:05:40,550 --> 01:05:38,940 in the in the hopper for years I've 1479 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:40,560 known about this story I knew about Jim 1480 01:05:44,420 --> 01:05:43,170 semi ban three years ago I heard all 1481 01:05:46,460 --> 01:05:44,430 these rumors that they were that they 1482 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:46,470 were going to do this kind of stuff and 1483 01:05:53,540 --> 01:05:51,690 they're just unraveling it and I think 1484 01:05:55,420 --> 01:05:53,550 they've got a lot of stuff it's not just 1485 01:05:58,070 --> 01:05:55,430 like these one or two more videos 1486 01:06:01,670 --> 01:05:58,080 they've got all sorts of stuff lined up 1487 01:06:05,380 --> 01:06:01,680 as to how they're going to unravel this 1488 01:06:08,210 --> 01:06:05,390 thing so they've got 24 videos and 1489 01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:08,220 whether those the darker commits you 1490 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:09,510 have o committee but they will sort of 1491 01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:11,610 dazzle the American people there be more 1492 01:06:15,740 --> 01:06:13,710 and more people come across or even if 1493 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:15,750 you take a look at the culeros Island if 1494 01:06:19,220 --> 01:06:17,730 you heard the story that Bob Bigelow got 1495 01:06:24,170 --> 01:06:19,230 all them stuff in the culeros Island 1496 01:06:25,780 --> 01:06:24,180 that's 15 hours of video a hundred 1497 01:06:28,660 --> 01:06:25,790 photographs or a thousand photographs 1498 01:06:32,270 --> 01:06:28,670 all sorts of reports and stuff like that 1499 01:06:33,770 --> 01:06:32,280 that that's dramatic stuff I mean now 1500 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:33,780 that's it's not going to convince the 1501 01:06:39,170 --> 01:06:36,450 UFO community but the way that they're 1502 01:06:43,070 --> 01:06:39,180 going to present this is is you know is 1503 01:06:45,050 --> 01:06:43,080 this program of acclimatization it's the 1504 01:06:47,810 --> 01:06:45,060 the Brookings Institute saying it's 1505 01:06:49,940 --> 01:06:47,820 you've got to get people on board before 1506 01:06:51,460 --> 01:06:49,950 you start explaining where these people 1507 01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:51,470 are from or what's at what's going on 1508 01:06:56,330 --> 01:06:54,480 very very controlled narrative that that 1509 01:06:57,860 --> 01:06:56,340 they're there they're putting out there 1510 01:07:00,050 --> 01:06:57,870 but the third video I will agree with 1511 01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:00,060 you was kind of a letdown compared to 1512 01:07:04,250 --> 01:07:02,160 the the first two it was like yeah I 1513 01:07:05,390 --> 01:07:04,260 sort of looked twice to see what's on 1514 01:07:07,550 --> 01:07:05,400 the screen what are you actually looking 1515 01:07:10,180 --> 01:07:07,560 at here and and then you know you 1516 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:10,190 there's all the problems which 1517 01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:13,730 still they don't really want to answer 1518 01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:14,510 like this 1519 01:07:17,770 --> 01:07:16,400 Chain of Custody thing you know that 1520 01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:17,780 they had it well they never released the 1521 01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:19,310 chain of custody like the one was 1522 01:07:21,850 --> 01:07:21,110 classified well okay that we got to take 1523 01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:21,860 your word for it 1524 01:07:26,740 --> 01:07:24,110 that there's just so many problems with 1525 01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:26,750 with all this stuff and yet I go back to 1526 01:07:31,030 --> 01:07:28,910 this thing that the New York Times and 1527 01:07:33,820 --> 01:07:31,040 The Washington Post reporters were these 1528 01:07:36,340 --> 01:07:33,830 very high-level guys they had to have 1529 01:07:38,530 --> 01:07:36,350 gotten some sort of assurance inside the 1530 01:07:40,330 --> 01:07:38,540 government that this thing was for real 1531 01:07:42,430 --> 01:07:40,340 that that that they were gonna play this 1532 01:07:43,660 --> 01:07:42,440 game because the Washington Post was 1533 01:07:46,750 --> 01:07:43,670 last time the Washington Post did a 1534 01:07:48,370 --> 01:07:46,760 straight-up UFO piece like 1952 I mean 1535 01:07:51,220 --> 01:07:48,380 it's just been for like forever they 1536 01:07:52,810 --> 01:07:51,230 just don't do UFO stories or positive 1537 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:52,820 UFO stories and you take a look at them 1538 01:07:58,960 --> 01:07:56,530 they're like in the lap of the Pentagon 1539 01:08:02,530 --> 01:07:58,970 they're basically giving the Pentagon 1540 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:02,540 and lying out and it to me I've just 1541 01:08:06,970 --> 01:08:04,490 amazed that how how well that sort of 1542 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:06,980 come across when you when you start to 1543 01:08:12,580 --> 01:08:10,970 understand that they've moved the the 1544 01:08:13,810 --> 01:08:12,590 media which is I think was the main 1545 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:13,820 objective all the time it had really 1546 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:15,770 nothing to do with the UFO community in 1547 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:19,090 trying to convince us there yeah Tom Tom 1548 01:08:26,020 --> 01:08:23,570 called me one day I was going over to 1549 01:08:28,420 --> 01:08:26,030 coast it was a Friday and I was going on 1550 01:08:31,660 --> 01:08:28,430 coast that night and he called me up and 1551 01:08:33,460 --> 01:08:31,670 said will you read a statement for me on 1552 01:08:36,730 --> 01:08:33,470 the air tonight on coast for the UFO 1553 01:08:38,650 --> 01:08:36,740 community and I said sure and so he sent 1554 01:08:40,570 --> 01:08:38,660 this over he texted it to me sent it 1555 01:08:44,170 --> 01:08:40,580 over and then he told me you know fix 1556 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:44,180 the typos in it and you can read this on 1557 01:08:48,430 --> 01:08:45,770 the air and this is what he sent to me 1558 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:48,440 it says I don't know if you've heard it 1559 01:08:54,460 --> 01:08:51,530 but this is he says I'd like to thank 1560 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:54,470 you I'd like to say for all I'd like to 1561 01:08:59,650 --> 01:08:57,050 say for all of your support I want to 1562 01:09:01,570 --> 01:08:59,660 thank you and as you know I created a 1563 01:09:03,730 --> 01:09:01,580 vehicle that my team was able to 1564 01:09:05,820 --> 01:09:03,740 supercharge and get the Pentagon to 1565 01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:05,830 officially acknowledge the existence of 1566 01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:09,110 unidentified aerial phenomena Senator 1567 01:09:12,660 --> 01:09:11,120 Harry Reid the former Majority Leader 1568 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:12,670 went on the record as well 1569 01:09:18,250 --> 01:09:15,530 Congress has ignited and briefings will 1570 01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:18,260 be starting soon if all goes well so 1571 01:09:23,010 --> 01:09:20,480 bear with me as we start talking about 1572 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:23,020 more gun camera footage hard 1573 01:09:27,570 --> 01:09:25,090 an even more expansive military 1574 01:09:29,580 --> 01:09:27,580 encounters it's all coming but it's 1575 01:09:33,540 --> 01:09:29,590 gonna trickle over the months ahead I 1576 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:33,550 want to thank you all again I am one of 1577 01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:36,970 you I am a truth seeker Tom DeLonge 1578 01:09:45,750 --> 01:09:43,060 December 29th 2017 so why do a statement 1579 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:45,760 like that to the UFO community and then 1580 01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:48,690 turn around and give him the big finger 1581 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:51,190 well I don't think Tom belongs really 1582 01:09:54,500 --> 01:09:52,930 the guy running it as he said to you in 1583 01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:54,510 that statement I set up the platform 1584 01:09:59,100 --> 01:09:57,040 which they're super charging or whatever 1585 01:10:01,320 --> 01:09:59,110 he uses that's what people don't realize 1586 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:01,330 everybody keeps the New York Times I 1587 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:03,490 mean Leslie Kane wrote this up everybody 1588 01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:05,170 makes the same mistake that's why I say 1589 01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:06,520 gotta listen to Jimmy Church interview 1590 01:10:11,460 --> 01:10:08,830 everybody says well Tom DeLonge set up 1591 01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:11,470 this operation he's the you know he's 1592 01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:13,270 not no longer Tom DeLonge he's Tom to 1593 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:14,800 Jesus he's you know he's walks on water 1594 01:10:19,050 --> 01:10:16,330 now he's the greatest guy in the world 1595 01:10:21,930 --> 01:10:19,060 and people don't realize this it's Bill 1596 01:10:24,510 --> 01:10:21,940 Moore all over again it's the same story 1597 01:10:26,460 --> 01:10:24,520 it's they contact him and invite him to 1598 01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:26,470 the barbecue at Lockheed skunkworks 1599 01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:28,000 and say we'd like you to introduce the 1600 01:10:31,290 --> 01:10:30,070 president and and then he goes and he 1601 01:10:33,420 --> 01:10:31,300 wants five minutes and they invite him 1602 01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:33,430 to area 51 he's got no security colors 1603 01:10:36,270 --> 01:10:34,870 he's got nothing and then they say Oh 1604 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:36,280 we'd like you to go to the Pentagon we 1605 01:10:39,540 --> 01:10:37,840 got somebody to meet and he meets these 1606 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:39,550 two guys you know like we you know like 1607 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:41,530 smoking cigarettes or whatever in this 1608 01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:43,690 dark room type thing and then they sent 1609 01:10:47,550 --> 01:10:45,910 him to Nassau and then the Nassau guy 1610 01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,560 sends him to the west coast and he meets 1611 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:49,360 the general and then he meets the head 1612 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:51,130 of Lockheed skunkworks and and it's like 1613 01:10:55,380 --> 01:10:53,410 they just bill more it's the same thing 1614 01:10:56,670 --> 01:10:55,390 it's like they drag him in and he did 1615 01:10:57,900 --> 01:10:56,680 set up the platform you see you gotta 1616 01:11:00,060 --> 01:10:57,910 give him credit he set up the platform 1617 01:11:01,350 --> 01:11:00,070 but I don't think Tom DeLonge is running 1618 01:11:04,230 --> 01:11:01,360 very much of anything anymore I think 1619 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:04,240 it's basically their operation even when 1620 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:06,010 if you take a look remember when when he 1621 01:11:10,020 --> 01:11:08,650 did the news conference on October Tobey 1622 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:10,030 the 11th and then he said okay we're 1623 01:11:12,990 --> 01:11:11,410 gonna have all this kind of stuff it's 1624 01:11:15,450 --> 01:11:13,000 all coming out and nothing happened 1625 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:15,460 about two days before I did an update 1626 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:18,130 about two days before the December 16th 1627 01:11:23,610 --> 01:11:21,370 release with the videos he actually had 1628 01:11:26,010 --> 01:11:23,620 a post another was on Facebook or 1629 01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:26,020 Twitter or whatever but he said oh they 1630 01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:28,450 tell me hang on another delay and he 1631 01:11:32,370 --> 01:11:30,640 goes ugh right if he doesn't even 1632 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:32,380 believe it anymore if they're telling 1633 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:34,210 him hang on hang on it's coming it's 1634 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:36,250 coming and they had this this issue that 1635 01:11:39,150 --> 01:11:36,970 that semi 1636 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:39,160 van talked about is they had to get this 1637 01:11:43,260 --> 01:11:41,290 the New York Times on board and the New 1638 01:11:44,730 --> 01:11:43,270 York Times has demands and and they 1639 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:44,740 don't completely control the whole thing 1640 01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:46,690 and so here's Tom DeLonge doesn't even 1641 01:11:49,890 --> 01:11:47,980 believe it two days before the release 1642 01:11:51,630 --> 01:11:49,900 that is coming out they're dragging him 1643 01:11:53,310 --> 01:11:51,640 along as well so I don't think Tom dongs 1644 01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:53,320 really running everything and everybody 1645 01:11:56,940 --> 01:11:55,360 thinks is Tom DeLonge I think in fact 1646 01:12:00,660 --> 01:11:56,950 what they said with this interview that 1647 01:12:02,220 --> 01:12:00,670 was done with Lew Elizondo with the 1648 01:12:04,830 --> 01:12:02,230 interview that was done that was taped 1649 01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:04,840 for UFO Congress Tom DeLonge was not 1650 01:12:07,950 --> 01:12:05,950 even in the room and they did that 1651 01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:07,960 interview I mean this is you gotta 1652 01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:09,820 remember it's Jim semi van it's these 1653 01:12:15,090 --> 01:12:12,910 guys he's a US government intelligence 1654 01:12:18,030 --> 01:12:15,100 operative guys who know exactly how this 1655 01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:18,040 how this game is is played how to shift 1656 01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:20,800 opinion I don't think Tom DeLonge has 1657 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:22,480 very much of anything to do he did set 1658 01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:25,330 up the platform but the platform once he 1659 01:12:27,870 --> 01:12:26,710 got the thing going and they introduced 1660 01:12:30,210 --> 01:12:27,880 him to people and he and all these 1661 01:12:32,130 --> 01:12:30,220 people lined up it was like Bill Moore 1662 01:12:35,070 --> 01:12:32,140 it was like they're feeding him stuff 1663 01:12:38,460 --> 01:12:35,080 and he's gonna get a lot of credit for 1664 01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:38,470 it but all the material is not coming 1665 01:12:41,940 --> 01:12:39,760 from Tom's long it's coming from all 1666 01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:41,950 these other people and they're just 1667 01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:45,040 using him as this vehicle to to get this 1668 01:12:49,050 --> 01:12:47,230 this this program that they wanted to 1669 01:12:50,970 --> 01:12:49,060 run for many years and it I think it's 1670 01:12:53,310 --> 01:12:50,980 it's worked very well so do you think 1671 01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,320 Dodi even though he's retired 1672 01:13:01,170 --> 01:12:55,360 II think Dodie's got his finger in this 1673 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:01,180 pie I made contact with him I will be 1674 01:13:05,490 --> 01:13:03,730 finding out he called he called into 1675 01:13:07,770 --> 01:13:05,500 this show a couple of weeks ago you 1676 01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:07,780 heard about that that was the big one 1677 01:13:12,030 --> 01:13:09,520 right we talked to him for 90 minutes 1678 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:12,040 were yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean 1679 01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:14,170 he's a and and I see Dodi different than 1680 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:14,710 everybody else 1681 01:13:20,490 --> 01:13:17,530 I mean Dodi is he's doing the same thing 1682 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:20,500 and it before in those years they used a 1683 01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:23,530 lot more of the thing where the way you 1684 01:13:28,020 --> 01:13:26,560 got the stuff out was you put you you 1685 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:28,030 took a document and you change the 1686 01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:30,250 document and you released a document and 1687 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:32,830 and and and then you say it's a phony 1688 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:34,690 document so it has the real material in 1689 01:13:38,730 --> 01:13:36,370 it and so this is what Richard Doty was 1690 01:13:42,330 --> 01:13:38,740 doing he was he was putting out material 1691 01:13:44,670 --> 01:13:42,340 and it was information cloaked with 1692 01:13:45,930 --> 01:13:44,680 disinformation because if you I would 1693 01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,940 say like people say all he was dis 1694 01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:47,440 informing people well no he's not dis 1695 01:13:50,540 --> 01:13:49,120 informing people if you want to dis 1696 01:13:52,399 --> 01:13:50,550 inform people you 1697 01:13:54,319 --> 01:13:52,409 just simply look at what Canada is doing 1698 01:13:56,270 --> 01:13:54,329 what Germany is doing what Australia is 1699 01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:56,280 doing and just shut up 1700 01:14:00,919 --> 01:13:58,290 the story goes away nobody knows what's 1701 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:00,929 going on you don't you don't you know 1702 01:14:07,609 --> 01:14:05,130 get a cover-up going by saying we're 1703 01:14:10,189 --> 01:14:07,619 gonna throw people off every 51 that 1704 01:14:11,930 --> 01:14:10,199 we've got a UFO and a bunch of a live 1705 01:14:13,399 --> 01:14:11,940 alien there by telling people we've got 1706 01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:13,409 a UFO program they're in a live alien 1707 01:14:17,089 --> 01:14:15,360 all you do is attract people up into the 1708 01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:17,099 mountains to watch what's going on so 1709 01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:19,110 what they were doing in those days was a 1710 01:14:23,149 --> 01:14:21,030 lot of this thing where you alter the 1711 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:23,159 information and you put it out because 1712 01:14:30,770 --> 01:14:25,730 with with with Dodie in those days 1713 01:14:31,879 --> 01:14:30,780 Richard Doty was only in the Air Force 1714 01:14:34,430 --> 01:14:31,889 for a couple of years during this 1715 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:34,440 operation there was 3,700 pages of mj-12 1716 01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,690 documents and almost every single one of 1717 01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:38,159 them was released long after Richard 1718 01:14:42,890 --> 01:14:40,920 Doty was there or if you take a look at 1719 01:14:45,530 --> 01:14:42,900 an example I'm writing up some of the 1720 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:45,540 stuff for maybe a future book I wrote up 1721 01:14:48,830 --> 01:14:47,610 the the whole deal with with Richard 1722 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:48,840 Doty if you take a look at Richard 1723 01:14:54,109 --> 01:14:51,690 Odie's interaction with Linda Howe 1983 1724 01:14:55,850 --> 01:14:54,119 right and you take a look so Linda Howe 1725 01:14:57,919 --> 01:14:55,860 is going in there and then you compare 1726 01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:57,929 it to lesley cane I can guarantee I've 1727 01:15:01,339 --> 01:14:59,520 got it on a chart that I'm gonna show 1728 01:15:02,959 --> 01:15:01,349 I'm actually in Los Angeles next Tuesday 1729 01:15:05,299 --> 01:15:02,969 and Wednesday lecture in Los Angeles and 1730 01:15:06,799 --> 01:15:05,309 I'm gonna show this this chart and I can 1731 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:06,809 guarantee you if I took the names off 1732 01:15:10,339 --> 01:15:08,250 the top you could not tell which was 1733 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:10,349 less akane and which was was was Linda 1734 01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:12,690 Howe Linda Howe gets brought in to 1735 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:15,840 Richard Doty she hears about him she 1736 01:15:18,979 --> 01:15:17,610 arranges the meeting she goes on to his 1737 01:15:21,530 --> 01:15:18,989 property she goes on to Kirkland Air 1738 01:15:23,060 --> 01:15:21,540 Force Base he sits her down he says the 1739 01:15:25,370 --> 01:15:23,070 government didn't like your documentary 1740 01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:25,380 on you caught him blindsided on your 1741 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:27,840 documentary on cattle mutilations I've 1742 01:15:31,459 --> 01:15:29,489 got something I want you to read he 1743 01:15:34,129 --> 01:15:31,469 shows her some documents he offers her 1744 01:15:36,260 --> 01:15:34,139 film and then you look at Leslie Cain's 1745 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:36,270 story Leslie Kane is contacted by 1746 01:15:39,859 --> 01:15:38,250 friends of Lou Elizondo and they say 1747 01:15:42,649 --> 01:15:39,869 we've got this guy we want you to meet 1748 01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:42,659 and she goes to Washington DC she goes 1749 01:15:45,620 --> 01:15:44,550 to the Pentagon city she meets with 1750 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:45,630 Louise I know who's a 1751 01:15:50,089 --> 01:15:47,730 counterintelligence officer the same as 1752 01:15:53,689 --> 01:15:50,099 Richard Doty she sits down she has shown 1753 01:15:57,379 --> 01:15:53,699 videos she has shown documents and she 1754 01:15:59,899 --> 01:15:57,389 sells it when Linda how did it she was 1755 01:16:02,240 --> 01:15:59,909 working for HBO he was a reporter on a 1756 01:16:04,419 --> 01:16:02,250 project as well Leslie Kane wrote for 1757 01:16:06,459 --> 01:16:04,429 Huffington Post so it's exactly the same 1758 01:16:08,770 --> 01:16:06,469 story and when you had the Richard Doty 1759 01:16:10,509 --> 01:16:08,780 thing Richard Doty with Linda ha was 1760 01:16:11,859 --> 01:16:10,519 only involved for one month most people 1761 01:16:12,939 --> 01:16:11,869 when they when they tell the story they 1762 01:16:14,739 --> 01:16:12,949 always forget the second half of the 1763 01:16:16,839 --> 01:16:14,749 story the second half of the story was 1764 01:16:18,879 --> 01:16:16,849 he pulled out and Linda was dealing with 1765 01:16:20,290 --> 01:16:18,889 another agent and then they said the 1766 01:16:22,419 --> 01:16:20,300 thing while we can't release the film 1767 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:22,429 until after the 84 election and people 1768 01:16:25,149 --> 01:16:23,570 leave that part of the story out it 1769 01:16:27,250 --> 01:16:25,159 wasn't just Richard Doty this was 1770 01:16:29,770 --> 01:16:27,260 Richard Doty doing his job 1771 01:16:32,529 --> 01:16:29,780 there was UFOs over the nuclear weapons 1772 01:16:34,750 --> 01:16:32,539 storage area at Manzano weapons storage 1773 01:16:36,250 --> 01:16:34,760 this was the biggest weapon nuclear 1774 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:36,260 weapons storage area in the world and 1775 01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,090 they had to turn this they had to stop 1776 01:16:42,399 --> 01:16:40,159 this story from from coming out Louella 1777 01:16:44,350 --> 01:16:42,409 Sandra's got the same job did is the 1778 01:16:45,879 --> 01:16:44,360 story's exactly the same with with the 1779 01:16:47,589 --> 01:16:45,889 video with all this kind of stuff and 1780 01:16:49,209 --> 01:16:47,599 they just used a different technique now 1781 01:16:53,229 --> 01:16:49,219 they're using a more open technique a 1782 01:16:54,489 --> 01:16:53,239 more more sort of approach where they're 1783 01:16:57,390 --> 01:16:54,499 basically saying this thing's for real 1784 01:16:59,199 --> 01:16:57,400 and there's not that much disinformation 1785 01:17:01,299 --> 01:16:59,209 covering the thing although the video 1786 01:17:02,469 --> 01:17:01,309 does have some problems with this noise 1787 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:02,479 in the background which I keep 1788 01:17:07,209 --> 01:17:05,449 maintaining is a problem that so I 1789 01:17:09,069 --> 01:17:07,219 always say there's there's what I call 1790 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:09,079 the high hurdle whether you're gonna 1791 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:11,449 release an official government document 1792 01:17:14,620 --> 01:17:13,130 that's top secret that says UFOs are 1793 01:17:17,169 --> 01:17:14,630 real or whether you're gonna release a 1794 01:17:20,620 --> 01:17:17,179 video you can't really release the 1795 01:17:22,419 --> 01:17:20,630 virial video because that's disclosure 1796 01:17:24,219 --> 01:17:22,429 that's not confirmation so what you have 1797 01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:24,229 to do is change it and I always thought 1798 01:17:28,359 --> 01:17:26,030 that with this video they put that noise 1799 01:17:30,549 --> 01:17:28,369 in the background and when Erik Davis 1800 01:17:32,169 --> 01:17:30,559 who's the chief scientist for put off 1801 01:17:34,419 --> 01:17:32,179 was asked about he said well that's the 1802 01:17:36,459 --> 01:17:34,429 guy left his mic open his mic he forgot 1803 01:17:38,799 --> 01:17:36,469 to turn off his mic and and they need 1804 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:38,809 f-18 well all three videos have that 1805 01:17:42,609 --> 01:17:40,130 vacuum cleaner noise in the background 1806 01:17:44,739 --> 01:17:42,619 and if you listen to the f-18 chatter 1807 01:17:46,989 --> 01:17:44,749 you don't hear that that noise and so 1808 01:17:48,939 --> 01:17:46,999 the question I always said was well did 1809 01:17:50,620 --> 01:17:48,949 they alter the video I mean is the video 1810 01:17:52,179 --> 01:17:50,630 altered to put the noise and then they 1811 01:17:53,979 --> 01:17:52,189 could say no it's not the real video 1812 01:17:55,839 --> 01:17:53,989 it's not is it right it's the video 1813 01:17:57,699 --> 01:17:55,849 right you you you alter and that's what 1814 01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:57,709 they were doing in the 1980s because 1815 01:18:01,029 --> 01:17:59,090 that's what Bill Moore was told right 1816 01:18:03,069 --> 01:18:01,039 from the word go he was told by the 1817 01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:03,079 Faulk and he said I'm going to give you 1818 01:18:06,910 --> 01:18:05,360 some material and you're gonna have to 1819 01:18:08,830 --> 01:18:06,920 search separate the wheat from the chaff 1820 01:18:10,629 --> 01:18:08,840 some of its gonna be real somebody's not 1821 01:18:12,939 --> 01:18:10,639 gonna be real and Bill Moore of course 1822 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:12,949 he's like Tom DeLonge you need an ego to 1823 01:18:16,629 --> 01:18:15,170 play this game so bill Moore said oh 1824 01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:16,639 yeah I can do that no problem he was 1825 01:18:19,140 --> 01:18:17,620 actually CIA 1826 01:18:21,330 --> 01:18:19,150 and I identified this in an update I 1827 01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:21,340 just did Bill Moore was CIA he worked 1828 01:18:25,890 --> 01:18:23,110 for the CIA when he was recruited at at 1829 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:25,900 university and he figured he could play 1830 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:27,610 the game he could get down on the inside 1831 01:18:31,770 --> 01:18:29,530 and so you could build more gets on the 1832 01:18:34,170 --> 01:18:31,780 inside in the 1980s and what happens 1833 01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:34,180 1989 he goes to the MUFON conference in 1834 01:18:37,170 --> 01:18:35,710 Las Vegas Center throwing stuff at him 1835 01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:37,180 and they're yelling and he's got to go 1836 01:18:41,310 --> 01:18:39,520 out the back door and now today Tom 1837 01:18:43,470 --> 01:18:41,320 DeLonge does exactly the same thing yes 1838 01:18:45,330 --> 01:18:43,480 inside the you the the intelligence and 1839 01:18:46,740 --> 01:18:45,340 the Defense Department he gets a bunch 1840 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:46,750 of sources in there and they're feeding 1841 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:48,490 on material and he gets researcher of 1842 01:18:52,260 --> 01:18:50,530 the Year award bill Moore got thrown out 1843 01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:52,270 of the field he had to he had to get 1844 01:18:56,430 --> 01:18:54,400 retire and it's a completely different 1845 01:18:58,350 --> 01:18:56,440 world than it was in 1980s but Bill 1846 01:18:59,820 --> 01:18:58,360 Moore and Tom DeLonge I'll absolutely 1847 01:19:02,070 --> 01:18:59,830 guarantee are doing exactly the same 1848 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:02,080 thing bill Moore at 24 sources Tom 1849 01:19:08,970 --> 01:19:05,650 DeLonge has probably high-level sources 1850 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:08,980 maybe 15 but the the is what's called 1851 01:19:13,230 --> 01:19:10,930 this cosmic Club there's over 40 people 1852 01:19:14,910 --> 01:19:13,240 there's a lot of people connect it to 1853 01:19:17,610 --> 01:19:14,920 Tom DeLonge now huge numbers of people 1854 01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:17,620 and I sit there and I know who most 1855 01:19:21,330 --> 01:19:18,880 these people are and I just sit there 1856 01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:21,340 and listen to what they say a lot of 1857 01:19:27,900 --> 01:19:25,180 people are into this game and Tom 1858 01:19:30,330 --> 01:19:27,910 DeLonge did set up this operation and I 1859 01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:30,340 think it's I think I'm probably 1860 01:19:35,790 --> 01:19:31,840 different to most people I think it's 1861 01:19:38,010 --> 01:19:35,800 running extremely welcome in in terms of 1862 01:19:41,850 --> 01:19:38,020 what I think they they intended to do 1863 01:19:44,220 --> 01:19:41,860 well let me have you heard I've gotten a 1864 01:19:47,550 --> 01:19:44,230 collection of information coming at me 1865 01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:47,560 and I welcome input from around the 1866 01:19:51,540 --> 01:19:49,420 country and around the world if you've 1867 01:19:54,450 --> 01:19:51,550 heard anything about this but that there 1868 01:19:58,590 --> 01:19:54,460 are a number of states right now in the 1869 01:20:01,290 --> 01:19:58,600 u.s. that are not allowing stock to be 1870 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:01,300 sold or traded in to the Stars Academy 1871 01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:04,210 yeah I had blocked it long ago already 1872 01:20:07,890 --> 01:20:06,550 why you were trying to find out why that 1873 01:20:09,780 --> 01:20:07,900 may have something to do somebody said 1874 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:09,790 had something to do with if you can use 1875 01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:12,010 a credit card they apparently allowed 1876 01:20:15,810 --> 01:20:14,110 you use a credit card to buy it in a lot 1877 01:20:17,340 --> 01:20:15,820 of places if you can't buy you stock 1878 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:17,350 with a credit card something like that I 1879 01:20:21,660 --> 01:20:19,570 I didn't thought like but Canada blocked 1880 01:20:23,730 --> 01:20:21,670 them almost right at the word go 1881 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:23,740 Canadians cannot buy stock well and 1882 01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:25,570 another thing that I've noticed and I've 1883 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:27,040 gone back and I check you know about 1884 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:29,410 once a week they got to the two and a 1885 01:20:32,650 --> 01:20:30,290 half million 1886 01:20:34,300 --> 01:20:32,660 or level like out of the gate they 1887 01:20:38,290 --> 01:20:34,310 haven't it stopped 1888 01:20:40,690 --> 01:20:38,300 it's it hasn't gone anywhere and if you 1889 01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:40,700 have and I'm looking at the the staff 1890 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:43,280 there and let's say let's pull out round 1891 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:45,050 numbers that everybody is getting a 1892 01:20:48,850 --> 01:20:46,970 hundred grand a year right 1893 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:48,860 may you know maybe a little more Tom 1894 01:20:53,020 --> 01:20:50,570 gets his four hundred thousand 1895 01:20:55,060 --> 01:20:53,030 investment back immediately out of this 1896 01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:55,070 two and a half million so out of that 1897 01:20:59,950 --> 01:20:57,890 the they're gonna run out of funding 1898 01:21:01,690 --> 01:20:59,960 here really really quickly there can't 1899 01:21:03,340 --> 01:21:01,700 be a whole lot of money left and you 1900 01:21:06,940 --> 01:21:03,350 know they went and got some swanky 1901 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:06,950 offices down there in Escondido yeah but 1902 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:08,330 that's why I don't think it's gonna do 1903 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:10,130 it the money I don't think I mean maybe 1904 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:12,170 Tom DeLonge is like he's selling books 1905 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:14,930 he's doing you know you know he's got 1906 01:21:17,530 --> 01:21:16,250 some new book coming out you could have 1907 01:21:19,090 --> 01:21:17,540 all six books to find out what 1908 01:21:20,620 --> 01:21:19,100 disclosure is all about and he's you 1909 01:21:22,300 --> 01:21:20,630 know sell them t-shirts and and that's 1910 01:21:24,340 --> 01:21:22,310 his deal I mean like we had the Bob 1911 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:24,350 Lazar thing and he and he so he the way 1912 01:21:27,820 --> 01:21:25,730 he describes Bob Lazar has got the 1913 01:21:29,170 --> 01:21:27,830 lifetime rights for Bob Lazar video 1914 01:21:31,150 --> 01:21:29,180 story or whatever it's like he 1915 01:21:33,670 --> 01:21:31,160 everything everything to him is is a 1916 01:21:36,610 --> 01:21:33,680 money-making story and and he's not 1917 01:21:38,410 --> 01:21:36,620 really into the I think his his role in 1918 01:21:39,970 --> 01:21:38,420 this thing what he's doing is completely 1919 01:21:40,990 --> 01:21:39,980 different in what the intelligence 1920 01:21:44,590 --> 01:21:41,000 people are doing they're they're really 1921 01:21:45,790 --> 01:21:44,600 not into the money thing and we all know 1922 01:21:49,390 --> 01:21:45,800 that the money's not going to buy 1923 01:21:50,890 --> 01:21:49,400 anything and yet what I'm going to be 1924 01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:50,900 talking about in Los Angeles next 1925 01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:52,730 Tuesday and Wednesday I'm gonna talk 1926 01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:54,110 about what I think is important the 1927 01:21:58,090 --> 01:21:55,310 experience was saying there are four 1928 01:21:59,560 --> 01:21:58,100 components to the to the if you leave 1929 01:22:00,010 --> 01:21:59,570 out the money there's four components to 1930 01:22:02,530 --> 01:22:00,020 this whole thing 1931 01:22:03,850 --> 01:22:02,540 there's the diva reports is 38 reports 1932 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:03,860 which don't mean anything cuz they're 1933 01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:05,570 basically just reports on theoretical 1934 01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:08,000 ideas about how propulsion works at how 1935 01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:09,440 they could get to the stars and all kind 1936 01:22:13,930 --> 01:22:12,290 of that means nothing they've the the 1937 01:22:15,310 --> 01:22:13,940 metal that's going to show very clearly 1938 01:22:18,940 --> 01:22:15,320 that something's going on if you got 1939 01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:18,950 this 80 pieces 80 levels of material and 1940 01:22:22,450 --> 01:22:20,780 has these weird properties and weird 1941 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:22,460 isotopes of stuff yeah that that means 1942 01:22:26,020 --> 01:22:24,410 something very weird is going on it just 1943 01:22:27,460 --> 01:22:26,030 confirms again it just confirms that 1944 01:22:29,650 --> 01:22:27,470 there's a phenomena that we have to look 1945 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:29,660 at here and and then you have the the 1946 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:30,770 videos which aren't going anywhere 1947 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:32,930 they're not really proven anything but 1948 01:22:37,090 --> 01:22:34,850 it's the other thing and what I'm told 1949 01:22:39,340 --> 01:22:37,100 and I'm gonna play some some audio there 1950 01:22:41,140 --> 01:22:39,350 from this program the one is the fourth 1951 01:22:42,610 --> 01:22:41,150 element is the experiencer one and I'm 1952 01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:42,620 not sure whether it's Washington Post - 1953 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:43,760 New York Times talked about 1954 01:22:48,340 --> 01:22:45,890 the experiencer thing and this I am told 1955 01:22:50,830 --> 01:22:48,350 is that I heard a rumor this is an 8 1956 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:50,840 year program and they have a sponsor so 1957 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:52,370 this is not coming from Tom's lungs 1958 01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:54,050 money I don't think this is coming from 1959 01:22:57,610 --> 01:22:55,760 somewhere else because because semi 1960 01:22:59,440 --> 01:22:57,620 bands said to us it's really not part of 1961 01:23:01,060 --> 01:22:59,450 the time to long operation so you know 1962 01:23:06,130 --> 01:23:01,070 about this thing with with help put off 1963 01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:06,140 and Gary Nolan and kid green formerly 1964 01:23:09,460 --> 01:23:08,000 from the CIA right they're working on 1965 01:23:11,890 --> 01:23:09,470 these experiences and I just had another 1966 01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:11,900 one I was identified to me yesterday and 1967 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:13,790 he's agreed to it be interviewed about 1968 01:23:18,610 --> 01:23:16,610 about what what he's his role is because 1969 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:18,620 he's being looked at by them and what 1970 01:23:21,630 --> 01:23:20,090 they do is they take experiences and 1971 01:23:24,670 --> 01:23:21,640 highly psychic people so uri geller 1972 01:23:26,410 --> 01:23:24,680 mcmoneagle Ingo Swann they've got all 1973 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:26,420 their DNA and stuff like that and what 1974 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:28,130 they're looking at is highly psychic 1975 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:31,010 people and and experiencers who have 1976 01:23:34,420 --> 01:23:32,810 been injured so a lot of these are our 1977 01:23:35,710 --> 01:23:34,430 military people who've gotten too close 1978 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:35,720 to the craft or something like that and 1979 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:37,610 they've got these these injuries and 1980 01:23:41,710 --> 01:23:39,050 they're looking at these people and what 1981 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:41,720 they find out is that the way Gary Nolan 1982 01:23:45,580 --> 01:23:43,370 described it is they have this brain 1983 01:23:47,050 --> 01:23:45,590 pattern and they call it the antenna so 1984 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:47,060 what they're looking at and then this 1985 01:23:50,830 --> 01:23:48,890 makes sense this is what the smart 1986 01:23:52,180 --> 01:23:50,840 Intelligence Agency would do is if you 1987 01:23:53,700 --> 01:23:52,190 want to know what's going on you have 1988 01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:53,710 these people who are saying I mean 1989 01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:55,760 interacting with this alien and you 1990 01:24:00,040 --> 01:23:58,130 watch them and you start to study them 1991 01:24:02,260 --> 01:24:00,050 and and what they say is they have this 1992 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:02,270 antenna they're able to tune in to 1993 01:24:06,130 --> 01:24:04,250 whatever this phenomena is and they all 1994 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:06,140 have the same brain pattern and they all 1995 01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:08,690 have a DNA marker from what I'm told so 1996 01:24:12,820 --> 01:24:10,400 they're looking at the DNA is there 1997 01:24:16,030 --> 01:24:12,830 something unique about highly psychic be 1998 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:16,040 a psychic people like yeller Swan all 1999 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:18,410 these people and UFO experiences and 2000 01:24:21,220 --> 01:24:19,610 what they're finding is yes there is 2001 01:24:22,990 --> 01:24:21,230 this connection and I'm told us an eight 2002 01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:23,000 year program and it's not really part of 2003 01:24:27,670 --> 01:24:26,450 the to the stars thing so you have some 2004 01:24:29,050 --> 01:24:27,680 money there that's coming in from 2005 01:24:30,490 --> 01:24:29,060 somewhere else whether it's Bigelow 2006 01:24:33,670 --> 01:24:30,500 putting up the money or whoever's 2007 01:24:36,250 --> 01:24:33,680 putting up the money but the the thing 2008 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:36,260 with Tom DeLonge it's never really what 2009 01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:38,330 Tom DeLonge does I don't even listen to 2010 01:24:41,860 --> 01:24:40,310 him I just sort of ignore in fact he's 2011 01:24:43,150 --> 01:24:41,870 off the record either it really doesn't 2012 01:24:44,590 --> 01:24:43,160 talk it you probably the last guy he 2013 01:24:46,330 --> 01:24:44,600 talked to he doesn't talk to anybody 2014 01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:46,340 it's almost like they've got him and 2015 01:24:50,530 --> 01:24:48,770 tell them you know go produce your books 2016 01:24:53,230 --> 01:24:50,540 go do this thing and we'll run this 2017 01:24:56,770 --> 01:24:53,240 operation you have the intelligence and 2018 01:24:57,550 --> 01:24:56,780 the defense people who are I absolutely 2019 01:24:59,530 --> 01:24:57,560 firmly believe 2020 01:25:01,710 --> 01:24:59,540 not running the show yeah I don't think 2021 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:01,720 there's any question about that the 2022 01:25:09,700 --> 01:25:06,770 agenda and what it is that is driving it 2023 01:25:13,300 --> 01:25:09,710 that is what is is the most curious part 2024 01:25:15,580 --> 01:25:13,310 you know you have to is is it money is 2025 01:25:17,410 --> 01:25:15,590 it is that what's driving it the 2026 01:25:19,090 --> 01:25:17,420 technology I'm not talking about to the 2027 01:25:22,210 --> 01:25:19,100 stars and Tom DeLonge I'm talking about 2028 01:25:24,460 --> 01:25:22,220 those motivated to steered too long into 2029 01:25:28,030 --> 01:25:24,470 the stars in a certain direction the 2030 01:25:34,030 --> 01:25:28,040 bill more comparison here is is so 2031 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:34,040 textbook you know so does do they have 2032 01:25:39,490 --> 01:25:37,250 their agenda and meet those ends and Tom 2033 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:39,500 DeLonge gets driven into the ground and 2034 01:25:46,660 --> 01:25:42,890 has a an end to his story like Bill 2035 01:25:48,850 --> 01:25:46,670 Moore or is there another ending to this 2036 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:48,860 book where there is something that is 2037 01:25:52,810 --> 01:25:50,690 exposed and technology is brought 2038 01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:52,820 forward to the community and to the 2039 01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:55,280 stars is allowed to sell that technology 2040 01:26:00,430 --> 01:25:58,010 into the corporate sector that's that's 2041 01:26:02,860 --> 01:26:00,440 I don't know and it's one of those 2042 01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:02,870 endings is probably is what's going to 2043 01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:05,450 happen well I'll give you I'll give you 2044 01:26:08,590 --> 01:26:07,070 another little thing that I'll talk a 2045 01:26:11,500 --> 01:26:08,600 little bit about in Los Angeles next 2046 01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:11,510 week let me jump in let me jump in grant 2047 01:26:17,500 --> 01:26:14,450 Graham is going to be at you parse right 2048 01:26:19,860 --> 01:26:17,510 here in Studio City in the valley and 2049 01:26:23,980 --> 01:26:19,870 that's going to be on Tuesday night and 2050 01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,990 you can go to you pars on Meetup and and 2051 01:26:28,540 --> 01:26:25,760 find out all about that and of course 2052 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:28,550 grants website and and Facebook it'll 2053 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:31,250 all be there but then on Wednesday he's 2054 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:33,530 gonna be at MUFON in Orange County so 2055 01:26:39,370 --> 01:26:36,170 two nights in a row Southern California 2056 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:39,380 we get the full grant Cameron experience 2057 01:26:43,570 --> 01:26:40,970 okay so there you go grant there's your 2058 01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:43,580 plug yeah I wish I there are we can we 2059 01:26:50,830 --> 01:26:48,040 do the big expose with Leslie I and and 2060 01:26:53,740 --> 01:26:50,840 Danny Sheehan and we're gonna we're 2061 01:26:55,180 --> 01:26:53,750 gonna do the whole thing cuz Melinda 2062 01:26:56,860 --> 01:26:55,190 worked on this story for 25 years I 2063 01:26:59,200 --> 01:26:56,870 didn't realize that she came up with the 2064 01:27:01,090 --> 01:26:59,210 same where's this gonna be where's this 2065 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:01,100 gonna be but that's it's at San 2066 01:27:05,260 --> 01:27:04,010 Francisco near the airport I think it's 2067 01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:05,270 the Holiday Inn near the airport 2068 01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:07,710 that's UFO Con 2069 01:27:14,570 --> 01:27:12,480 and it's a big expose disclosure expose 2070 01:27:16,010 --> 01:27:14,580 and Melinda is gonna do a lecture and 2071 01:27:17,900 --> 01:27:16,020 I'm gonna do a lecture she's gonna do 2072 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:17,910 some of the old stuff and she interacted 2073 01:27:22,220 --> 01:27:19,890 with a lot of the bill Moore's people I 2074 01:27:23,540 --> 01:27:22,230 didn't realize this I I I'm always I 2075 01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:23,550 would make the joke I'm always one step 2076 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:25,920 removed from my victim I always sit 2077 01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:27,690 there and I have people who are talking 2078 01:27:31,690 --> 01:27:29,040 to these people but I never really 2079 01:27:34,670 --> 01:27:31,700 talked to any dr you saying that Melinda 2080 01:27:36,890 --> 01:27:34,680 when Bill Moore was on the circuit in 2081 01:27:41,330 --> 01:27:36,900 the 80s that Melinda was dealing with 2082 01:27:43,970 --> 01:27:41,340 Bill Moore's people in the 80s late 80s 2083 01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:43,980 Early 90s and she's into it she actually 2084 01:27:48,050 --> 01:27:46,320 confronted a number of them and she's 2085 01:27:50,270 --> 01:27:48,060 going to out of some of these people 2086 01:27:51,590 --> 01:27:50,280 that she talked to she's gonna talk to 2087 01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:51,600 and what they told her and what they 2088 01:27:57,170 --> 01:27:53,520 told her is back basically the same 2089 01:27:58,970 --> 01:27:57,180 thing that I said that the idea is that 2090 01:28:02,690 --> 01:27:58,980 they are there there's people inside the 2091 01:28:05,090 --> 01:28:02,700 UFO community who are there - I think 2092 01:28:07,370 --> 01:28:05,100 she you have to listen to her version of 2093 01:28:11,780 --> 01:28:07,380 the story and what she says - spin the 2094 01:28:13,670 --> 01:28:11,790 story and control it and move it away 2095 01:28:16,130 --> 01:28:13,680 when it gets too close to classified 2096 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:16,140 information and so these people are in 2097 01:28:19,070 --> 01:28:17,610 there then and that's why I called the 2098 01:28:20,420 --> 01:28:19,080 book managing magic that's what they're 2099 01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:20,430 doing they're managing this story 2100 01:28:24,170 --> 01:28:22,140 they're trying to move it out but 2101 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,180 they're also trying to control the story 2102 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:25,920 from going different places they don't 2103 01:28:32,150 --> 01:28:28,650 want it to go and so she worked on these 2104 01:28:33,950 --> 01:28:32,160 people and she mentions you know the 2105 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:33,960 people that she talked to and I'll let 2106 01:28:39,860 --> 01:28:36,930 her describe but I didn't realize I only 2107 01:28:41,209 --> 01:28:39,870 knew this last November she met me at at 2108 01:28:43,670 --> 01:28:41,219 Laughlin she said I need to have an 2109 01:28:45,260 --> 01:28:43,680 interview with you and talk with you and 2110 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:45,270 I've been doing this and I tell 2111 01:28:49,130 --> 01:28:47,130 everybody to watch all your updates and 2112 01:28:50,690 --> 01:28:49,140 stuff that it's the homework and and 2113 01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:50,700 I've done this and I said you've done it 2114 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:54,480 and she gave me 80 pages of notes of all 2115 01:28:58,010 --> 01:28:56,250 the people that she talked to and how 2116 01:28:59,840 --> 01:28:58,020 this all she's got a flow chart of all 2117 01:29:01,490 --> 01:28:59,850 these people and how she thinks they'll 2118 01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:01,500 link together my list is a lot longer 2119 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:03,630 nurse and I have maybe different 2120 01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:05,130 impressions exactly what they're doing 2121 01:29:09,380 --> 01:29:07,920 but but she in the 80s and 90s she was 2122 01:29:12,410 --> 01:29:09,390 dealing with a life because she was in 2123 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:12,420 in the Los Angeles area she and you know 2124 01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:14,489 a lot of the aerospace stuff is there 2125 01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:16,080 and a lot of these people showed up 2126 01:29:20,300 --> 01:29:18,239 Orange County MUFON and and these people 2127 01:29:21,649 --> 01:29:20,310 were around there so she interacted with 2128 01:29:23,089 --> 01:29:21,659 a lot of these people and 2129 01:29:25,250 --> 01:29:23,099 she's very you know she's like--she's 2130 01:29:27,770 --> 01:29:25,260 she's in their face I mean I'm not 2131 01:29:29,179 --> 01:29:27,780 she's very confrontational and shield if 2132 01:29:30,529 --> 01:29:29,189 she wants to ask a question to somebody 2133 01:29:32,659 --> 01:29:30,539 she's not afraid of everybody 2134 01:29:36,409 --> 01:29:32,669 i I don't really encounter anybody I 2135 01:29:38,359 --> 01:29:36,419 don't congrat I got it I got an 2136 01:29:40,580 --> 01:29:38,369 encounter you right now and take it to 2137 01:29:42,259 --> 01:29:40,590 take your covers away let's do that 2138 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:42,269 we'll be right back love we'll pick up 2139 01:29:46,250 --> 01:29:44,610 right where we are leaving off the one 2140 01:29:48,319 --> 01:29:46,260 of the only grant Cameron joins us 2141 01:29:49,770 --> 01:29:48,329 tonight lots to talk about 2142 01:30:00,780 --> 01:29:49,780 stay with us 2143 01:30:00,790 --> 01:30:10,580 [Music] 2144 01:30:16,819 --> 01:30:13,790 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 2145 01:30:19,319 --> 01:30:16,829 you're listening to faint and black 2146 01:30:22,169 --> 01:30:19,329 always on the edge of the hottest 2147 01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:22,179 alternative talk chilly church with fade 2148 01:30:42,180 --> 01:30:22,960 to black 2149 01:30:45,930 --> 01:30:42,190 stay GRA radio.com hurricanes 2150 01:30:47,669 --> 01:30:45,940 earthquakes wildfires this year we've 2151 01:30:50,459 --> 01:30:47,679 experienced more than our fair share 2152 01:30:52,919 --> 01:30:50,469 this is Jimmy Church a fade to black and 2153 01:30:55,169 --> 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01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:54,840 all right welcome back fade to black 2209 01:34:00,930 --> 01:33:56,890 great conversation going on right now 2210 01:34:03,510 --> 01:34:00,940 with Grant Cameron 30 minutes 27 minutes 2211 01:34:06,090 --> 01:34:03,520 till the launch for pre-registration 2212 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:06,100 registration at on stellar dot-com 2213 01:34:11,070 --> 01:34:09,010 so get ready for that it's getting ready 2214 01:34:12,420 --> 01:34:11,080 to go down at the top of the hour this 2215 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:12,430 segment of fade to black has probably 2216 01:34:17,850 --> 01:34:16,090 brought to you by new Pharma GN u Pharma 2217 01:34:19,620 --> 01:34:17,860 click on the banners over to meter 20 o 2218 01:34:22,620 --> 01:34:19,630 comm go and read about all of the 2219 01:34:26,340 --> 01:34:22,630 science behind new Pharma and the promo 2220 01:34:30,300 --> 01:34:26,350 code is f to be F the number to be F to 2221 01:34:35,310 --> 01:34:30,310 be and you're gonna get 33% off of your 2222 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:35,320 order again on stellar in 26 25 minutes 2223 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:38,290 and you can go and register and use the 2224 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:40,690 promo code Jimmy everybody okay 2225 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:44,890 grant staying on this I think the 2226 01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:48,610 comparisons to Bill Moore are inevitable 2227 01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:51,600 and also fascinating this is the thing 2228 01:34:59,250 --> 01:34:55,150 when it comes to that and you're 2229 01:35:01,050 --> 01:34:59,260 comparing Dodie to Elizondo and again 2230 01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:01,060 it's like it's right there it's staring 2231 01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:03,610 at us in the face how do we trust at 2232 01:35:09,300 --> 01:35:06,610 that point you know I know you have your 2233 01:35:11,850 --> 01:35:09,310 opinions about Dodie but how do we trust 2234 01:35:15,420 --> 01:35:11,860 Elizondo and if his intentions are 2235 01:35:18,180 --> 01:35:15,430 honest and sincere I think you just have 2236 01:35:20,460 --> 01:35:18,190 to read him I've listened to probably 2237 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:20,470 every interview he's given I haven't 2238 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:24,730 gotten any sort of real when when 2239 01:35:28,650 --> 01:35:27,010 somebody's telling the story they'll say 2240 01:35:30,090 --> 01:35:28,660 something like they'll bring up Roswell 2241 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:30,100 there's something at the wrong time in 2242 01:35:34,290 --> 01:35:32,410 history when it didn't exist or air 51 2243 01:35:38,430 --> 01:35:34,300 when the term wasn't being used there's 2244 01:35:40,710 --> 01:35:38,440 nothing that he said that that sort of 2245 01:35:43,410 --> 01:35:40,720 ticks me off I'm more interested in the 2246 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:43,420 others because I know that a lot of 2247 01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:44,890 people are saying okay you have evil 2248 01:35:49,260 --> 01:35:47,110 government guys but in this case the 2249 01:35:53,730 --> 01:35:49,270 vast majority of these people that are 2250 01:35:55,380 --> 01:35:53,740 involved are experiences you have Jim 2251 01:35:57,390 --> 01:35:55,390 semi van for sure as an experiencer 2252 01:36:00,690 --> 01:35:57,400 there's a high-level guy in Nassau who 2253 01:36:01,980 --> 01:36:00,700 has not put his name in the in the thing 2254 01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:01,990 yet but he's part of this 2255 01:36:05,979 --> 01:36:04,480 he's definitely experienced here he told 2256 01:36:08,350 --> 01:36:05,989 me his experience but 2257 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:08,360 the beings in the bedroom Gary Nolan 2258 01:36:13,170 --> 01:36:10,250 died believes an experiencer if you 2259 01:36:15,459 --> 01:36:13,180 listen to Jack Sarfatti 2260 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:15,469 help put off had an experience when he 2261 01:36:20,290 --> 01:36:18,410 was young Eric gave us for sure got into 2262 01:36:23,500 --> 01:36:20,300 this because of a UFO sighting that he 2263 01:36:24,940 --> 01:36:23,510 had and I think 1989 so you don't have 2264 01:36:27,250 --> 01:36:24,950 people who are doing this because 2265 01:36:30,010 --> 01:36:27,260 they're working for government or 2266 01:36:33,010 --> 01:36:30,020 whatever these are people who are like 2267 01:36:34,450 --> 01:36:33,020 you and I who caught the bug by seeing 2268 01:36:36,370 --> 01:36:34,460 something and they're determined to 2269 01:36:40,090 --> 01:36:36,380 figure this out so I and and the people 2270 01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:40,100 that I've met and and over the this 2271 01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:43,280 period of time once you meet them face 2272 01:36:46,780 --> 01:36:44,800 to face you have a different impression 2273 01:36:48,940 --> 01:36:46,790 then when you hear the stories behind 2274 01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:48,950 the scenes when you meet amigo Jesus not 2275 01:36:51,940 --> 01:36:50,570 about a guy I mean he's just like you 2276 01:36:54,430 --> 01:36:51,950 know it maybe people have got them read 2277 01:36:56,500 --> 01:36:54,440 wrong when you see them but I I I listen 2278 01:36:58,660 --> 01:36:56,510 to all of them and I have over a hundred 2279 01:37:01,060 --> 01:36:58,670 people on a list so I'm not relying on 2280 01:37:02,890 --> 01:37:01,070 one or two people I believe there's a 2281 01:37:04,690 --> 01:37:02,900 hundred people in this story and I 2282 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:04,700 listen to what everybody says so you can 2283 01:37:09,310 --> 01:37:07,010 its whether you're talking Pandolfi or 2284 01:37:12,940 --> 01:37:09,320 we do talk in Elizondo or whoever I 2285 01:37:15,430 --> 01:37:12,950 listen to them all and I try to get a 2286 01:37:18,010 --> 01:37:15,440 story based upon what a hundred people 2287 01:37:19,900 --> 01:37:18,020 are saying and and I don't really take 2288 01:37:21,610 --> 01:37:19,910 anybody what people do is they they sort 2289 01:37:23,740 --> 01:37:21,620 of separate the we you know there's good 2290 01:37:26,890 --> 01:37:23,750 guys and bad guys and the mistake you 2291 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:26,900 make by doing that is that you sort of 2292 01:37:30,700 --> 01:37:28,850 pick your religion and you figure out 2293 01:37:32,140 --> 01:37:30,710 okay this is a good guy and you start 2294 01:37:34,060 --> 01:37:32,150 listening to one person and I think that 2295 01:37:35,500 --> 01:37:34,070 is the dangerous part is that you should 2296 01:37:37,660 --> 01:37:35,510 we listen to what they're all saying and 2297 01:37:40,090 --> 01:37:37,670 trying to put a story together and to me 2298 01:37:42,220 --> 01:37:40,100 the story makes pretty good sense as to 2299 01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:42,230 as to what's going on it's very frayed 2300 01:37:46,030 --> 01:37:43,760 in the example of that is Bill more 2301 01:37:47,860 --> 01:37:46,040 people give bill more a bad rap I can 2302 01:37:49,690 --> 01:37:47,870 say that bill more cuz I was I was with 2303 01:37:53,260 --> 01:37:49,700 Bill more I was around when he was there 2304 01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:53,270 he's the only guy in the entire UFO 2305 01:37:57,910 --> 01:37:55,280 community who actually helped me with 2306 01:37:59,560 --> 01:37:57,920 dr. Eric Walker and for that I I say I 2307 01:38:02,080 --> 01:37:59,570 mean could he be that bad a guy he 2308 01:38:04,660 --> 01:38:02,090 actually sent kit green from the CIA and 2309 01:38:06,910 --> 01:38:04,670 to interview dr. Walker and he end up 2310 01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:06,920 getting thrown out of the office but he 2311 01:38:11,170 --> 01:38:08,719 actually helped me and he answered my 2312 01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:11,180 questions he when I asked him stuff I've 2313 01:38:15,130 --> 01:38:13,280 dealt with he'll put off for many years 2314 01:38:16,930 --> 01:38:15,140 and every time I've asked him a question 2315 01:38:19,850 --> 01:38:16,940 it's been like I asked him did the 2316 01:38:21,500 --> 01:38:19,860 presidents get briefed on reviewing 2317 01:38:23,180 --> 01:38:21,510 I know he was going after the Holman air 2318 01:38:25,370 --> 01:38:23,190 force base film he came to me about that 2319 01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:25,380 I know that in this a story I want to 2320 01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:27,690 tell before the end of the show I've got 2321 01:38:32,810 --> 01:38:29,520 another thing I'm gonna disclose in Los 2322 01:38:36,620 --> 01:38:32,820 Angeles he knew the importance of a guy 2323 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:36,630 by name of Arthur Lundell who when the 2324 01:38:40,580 --> 01:38:38,610 guy picks up on that then I know this 2325 01:38:44,660 --> 01:38:40,590 guy's legit he knows what's going on he 2326 01:38:50,270 --> 01:38:44,670 knows what the important guy and I had a 2327 01:38:52,430 --> 01:38:50,280 collection of UFO writings from help art 2328 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:52,440 Lundell who was the first guy who ran 2329 01:38:57,580 --> 01:38:54,690 the weird desk at the CIA the UFO thing 2330 01:38:59,720 --> 01:38:57,590 and that was back in the 50s and 60s and 2331 01:39:03,229 --> 01:38:59,730 he'll said Oh view I heard you've got 2332 01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:03,239 this this file of his writings can I get 2333 01:39:07,370 --> 01:39:05,130 a copy of that file and then I knew that 2334 01:39:09,169 --> 01:39:07,380 he knew the importance of this and I've 2335 01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:09,179 dealt with out most of the people and to 2336 01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:11,040 the stars I haven't dealt with the along 2337 01:39:16,129 --> 01:39:13,800 or whatever I've indirectly dealt with a 2338 01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:16,139 lot of them and I just find out that 2339 01:39:19,729 --> 01:39:17,760 they're just I mean they may be diluted 2340 01:39:20,930 --> 01:39:19,739 so that's where I people will say good 2341 01:39:22,850 --> 01:39:20,940 and bad I really don't believe in good 2342 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:22,860 bad I believe in in belief systems that 2343 01:39:26,810 --> 01:39:25,050 people are deluded they get some idea in 2344 01:39:28,490 --> 01:39:26,820 their head and and that makes them do 2345 01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:28,500 stupid things so I believe there's a lot 2346 01:39:35,750 --> 01:39:30,719 of deluded people but the people that 2347 01:39:37,970 --> 01:39:35,760 I've met I really can't say I would say 2348 01:39:39,620 --> 01:39:37,980 that there have that problem with 2349 01:39:40,729 --> 01:39:39,630 whistleblowers but not with these with 2350 01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:40,739 these guys and I've dealt with a lot 2351 01:39:46,340 --> 01:39:42,239 with a lot of these people but they do 2352 01:39:48,229 --> 01:39:46,350 have very distinct views on things that 2353 01:39:49,879 --> 01:39:48,239 maybe I don't agree with or you know 2354 01:39:51,890 --> 01:39:49,889 whether they believe in evil aliens or 2355 01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:51,900 how they see that kind of stuff or their 2356 01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:53,570 religious beliefs or stuff like that but 2357 01:40:00,800 --> 01:39:56,250 so that's that's all I can really say 2358 01:40:03,140 --> 01:40:00,810 about that it's I think that's the best 2359 01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:03,150 way for me to go is to have this in huge 2360 01:40:08,470 --> 01:40:05,280 lists and and to give you an idea you 2361 01:40:11,149 --> 01:40:08,480 start seeing these patterns again that 2362 01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:11,159 Bill Moore was just a guy who believed 2363 01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:13,110 that he was smart like Tom DeLonge he 2364 01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:14,850 could get in on the inside he could 2365 01:40:18,050 --> 01:40:16,170 figure this thing out and he was trying 2366 01:40:19,060 --> 01:40:18,060 to figure it out and when it all sort of 2367 01:40:21,740 --> 01:40:19,070 blew up in his face 2368 01:40:24,379 --> 01:40:21,750 the ego he couldn't take it and he had 2369 01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:24,389 to leave the field and one of the things 2370 01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:25,440 I'm going to talk about in Los Angeles 2371 01:40:29,060 --> 01:40:27,210 is I've just been this the second time 2372 01:40:31,310 --> 01:40:29,070 it's happened to me I've got some 2373 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:31,320 documents I've got now now 99 pages of 2374 01:40:33,500 --> 01:40:33,210 documents and this has to do with an 2375 01:40:35,029 --> 01:40:33,510 eyes 2376 01:40:37,459 --> 01:40:35,039 briefing for a President of the United 2377 01:40:39,529 --> 01:40:37,469 States and there's a negotiation going 2378 01:40:42,410 --> 01:40:39,539 on now to get the rest of the what it 2379 01:40:44,270 --> 01:40:42,420 was was a guy who ran this program it 2380 01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:44,280 was a 90-day program for a president 2381 01:40:49,370 --> 01:40:45,360 which I'm not going to say who it was 2382 01:40:52,910 --> 01:40:49,380 right at the moment but to do a study 2383 01:40:55,490 --> 01:40:52,920 and that there was eight people on the 2384 01:40:56,299 --> 01:40:55,500 team and when you look at the people on 2385 01:40:58,700 --> 01:40:56,309 the team 2386 01:41:00,560 --> 01:40:58,710 the first thing I saw was was art 2387 01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:00,570 London's name and I said wow this has 2388 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:02,250 got to be for real because most people 2389 01:41:05,330 --> 01:41:03,690 don't know who he is and how important 2390 01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:05,340 he is that if you were gonna do a team 2391 01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:06,690 for the President of the United States 2392 01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:08,130 as to what's going on you would have 2393 01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:10,650 heard land on the team so what you do is 2394 01:41:14,450 --> 01:41:12,210 you get a cross over from the Tom 2395 01:41:16,459 --> 01:41:14,460 DeLonge or that the bill more thing the 2396 01:41:20,209 --> 01:41:16,469 same cross over so let's take a look at 2397 01:41:25,129 --> 01:41:20,219 Tom DeLonge so you have art Lundell well 2398 01:41:27,379 --> 01:41:25,139 that will be Jim semi van high-level CIA 2399 01:41:30,859 --> 01:41:27,389 guy and then the other guy that was on 2400 01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:30,869 the team was Kelly Johnson was on this 2401 01:41:35,209 --> 01:41:33,570 this team for this 90-day eyes-only 2402 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:35,219 briefing for this president well Kelly 2403 01:41:38,810 --> 01:41:37,170 Johnson if you remember the Tom DeLonge 2404 01:41:40,459 --> 01:41:38,820 operation when this thing first started 2405 01:41:42,020 --> 01:41:40,469 out and they sent Tom DeLonge from 2406 01:41:44,270 --> 01:41:42,030 airport to airport the same as they did 2407 01:41:46,069 --> 01:41:44,280 to Bill Moore he gets in contact with 2408 01:41:48,020 --> 01:41:46,079 Robert Weiss and he's dealing with 2409 01:41:49,459 --> 01:41:48,030 Robert Weiss at Lockheed skunkworks the 2410 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:49,469 head of Lockheed skunkworks on this 2411 01:41:54,620 --> 01:41:51,570 other operation it's Kelly Johnson it's 2412 01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:54,630 that same thing one big wave was this 2413 01:42:00,020 --> 01:41:58,320 two brief Kennedy no not Kennedy it's 2414 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:00,030 it's it's it's one that you wouldn't 2415 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:02,010 think of but if you give me another week 2416 01:42:05,839 --> 01:42:04,530 I will hopefully but if you offer the 2417 01:42:07,850 --> 01:42:05,849 money I want to make sure we get the 2418 01:42:11,020 --> 01:42:07,860 rest of these documents why do you do 2419 01:42:17,689 --> 01:42:11,030 this to me you do this to me constantly 2420 01:42:20,419 --> 01:42:17,699 well I I will get these documents 2421 01:42:22,370 --> 01:42:20,429 there's about 250 pages and what it is 2422 01:42:24,709 --> 01:42:22,380 it's not government documents it's a guy 2423 01:42:26,839 --> 01:42:24,719 the guy that ran the study right his 2424 01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:26,849 guys name was Rand Frank Rand ran the 2425 01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:30,690 study and he had these these these guys 2426 01:42:34,759 --> 01:42:33,449 and at the end he starts to write this 2427 01:42:37,310 --> 01:42:34,769 book and he's got all his notes he 2428 01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:37,320 starts writing the book and this is all 2429 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:40,320 99 pages is bits and pieces of this book 2430 01:42:44,509 --> 01:42:42,690 and notes and stuff like that that he 2431 01:42:47,319 --> 01:42:44,519 had naming the people and stuff like 2432 01:42:49,810 --> 01:42:47,329 that and he dies 2433 01:42:51,759 --> 01:42:49,820 in the lounge I died last year it has to 2434 01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:51,769 be Johnson Johnson's the president that 2435 01:43:00,939 --> 01:42:53,570 we've forgotten about most people don't 2436 01:43:05,739 --> 01:43:00,949 even know that he was president so you 2437 01:43:07,839 --> 01:43:05,749 got you you got you you got the CI 2438 01:43:09,369 --> 01:43:07,849 high-level CIA guy you got the guy from 2439 01:43:11,500 --> 01:43:09,379 Lockheed skunkworks and the other guy 2440 01:43:13,299 --> 01:43:11,510 that's on this list is the guy that had 2441 01:43:14,469 --> 01:43:13,309 it's not exactly the same job but he's 2442 01:43:17,250 --> 01:43:14,479 in general wright-patterson Air Force 2443 01:43:19,839 --> 01:43:17,260 Base well that's general McCaslin who 2444 01:43:21,759 --> 01:43:19,849 joined up to tom delonge operation so 2445 01:43:24,489 --> 01:43:21,769 you get this thing from from like four 2446 01:43:26,889 --> 01:43:24,499 decades ago and it's the same story it's 2447 01:43:29,169 --> 01:43:26,899 the same group of people who get 2448 01:43:31,029 --> 01:43:29,179 together the head of the other guy it 2449 01:43:32,609 --> 01:43:31,039 was on there was what the second 2450 01:43:35,679 --> 01:43:32,619 director of the National Reconnaissance 2451 01:43:37,540 --> 01:43:35,689 Organization well most people don't know 2452 01:43:39,129 --> 01:43:37,550 that Tom DeLonge has a general in the 2453 01:43:41,829 --> 01:43:39,139 National Reconnaissance Organization 2454 01:43:43,419 --> 01:43:41,839 it's that same story it's like they run 2455 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:43,429 this thing over and over again that 2456 01:43:46,869 --> 01:43:45,050 they're in these operations almost like 2457 01:43:48,729 --> 01:43:46,879 you see the bill Moore's people are all 2458 01:43:50,379 --> 01:43:48,739 a lot of them are part of Tom DeLong's 2459 01:43:53,259 --> 01:43:50,389 operation they were part of mids they 2460 01:43:54,969 --> 01:43:53,269 were private part of Jim James firm 2461 01:43:56,619 --> 01:43:54,979 edges operation they just keep 2462 01:43:58,329 --> 01:43:56,629 reappearing because they're sitting 2463 01:43:59,500 --> 01:43:58,339 there they're there they're not you know 2464 01:44:01,689 --> 01:43:59,510 guys who are trying to destroy the world 2465 01:44:04,509 --> 01:44:01,699 they're guys who at one point in their 2466 01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:04,519 career got a sniff of the UFO thing like 2467 01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:06,320 you and I fell down the rabbit hole and 2468 01:44:09,159 --> 01:44:07,760 are trying to figure this thing out and 2469 01:44:10,359 --> 01:44:09,169 they're trying to use their intelligence 2470 01:44:12,099 --> 01:44:10,369 connections to figure out what's going 2471 01:44:13,659 --> 01:44:12,109 on so every time there's some money like 2472 01:44:15,009 --> 01:44:13,669 Bob Bigelow with knits and they're 2473 01:44:17,049 --> 01:44:15,019 getting paid thousand dollars a day to 2474 01:44:19,089 --> 01:44:17,059 be consultants they say yeah right let's 2475 01:44:21,759 --> 01:44:19,099 get in there and they they can get 2476 01:44:23,079 --> 01:44:21,769 information they can get money and and - 2477 01:44:24,909 --> 01:44:23,089 Tom DeLonge because that's what happened 2478 01:44:26,829 --> 01:44:24,919 with Tom DeLonge if you look at helped 2479 01:44:28,329 --> 01:44:26,839 put off what helped put off says is the 2480 01:44:30,279 --> 01:44:28,339 reason that he joined the Tom DeLonge 2481 01:44:33,310 --> 01:44:30,289 operation is he got a phone call from 2482 01:44:34,689 --> 01:44:33,320 KITT green and KITT Green said oh Tom 2483 01:44:36,459 --> 01:44:34,699 DeLonge he's sort of on the leading 2484 01:44:38,469 --> 01:44:36,469 edges of stuff you might want to check 2485 01:44:40,569 --> 01:44:38,479 him out and so it's like oh there's some 2486 01:44:42,429 --> 01:44:40,579 information there's some an operation 2487 01:44:44,669 --> 01:44:42,439 going on here and they all just find out 2488 01:44:47,469 --> 01:44:44,679 where's the operation going on right now 2489 01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:47,479 in the 1980s it was Bill Moore was the 2490 01:44:50,969 --> 01:44:49,280 name of the game he was the guy that was 2491 01:44:53,500 --> 01:44:50,979 on the inside that was talking to 2492 01:44:56,529 --> 01:44:53,510 supposedly talking to Kissinger talking 2493 01:44:58,809 --> 01:44:56,539 to gates and talking to Richard Helms 2494 01:45:00,549 --> 01:44:58,819 had all these high-level guys and so of 2495 01:45:01,150 --> 01:45:00,559 course you want to get in on that circle 2496 01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:01,160 and find out what you 2497 01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:03,890 and today that the new bill more the new 2498 01:45:07,690 --> 01:45:06,050 in guy who has the money 2499 01:45:09,310 --> 01:45:07,700 who has the connections inside the 2500 01:45:12,430 --> 01:45:09,320 government who is being contacted by the 2501 01:45:14,170 --> 01:45:12,440 government is is Tom DeLonge and that's 2502 01:45:16,090 --> 01:45:14,180 why kid green joined the organization 2503 01:45:17,290 --> 01:45:16,100 and that's when Jim semi van said he 2504 01:45:19,570 --> 01:45:17,300 learned about kid green from a 2505 01:45:23,430 --> 01:45:19,580 high-level CIA guy that's got to be 2506 01:45:26,380 --> 01:45:23,440 kidding and then he went in April of 19 2507 01:45:27,820 --> 01:45:26,390 2016 and said oh I hear you're you're 2508 01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:27,830 talking to these generals what's going 2509 01:45:30,910 --> 01:45:29,810 on I'd like to help you that's exactly 2510 01:45:33,340 --> 01:45:30,920 what said to Bill Moore I'm here to help 2511 01:45:34,900 --> 01:45:33,350 you and they get in and they want to 2512 01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:34,910 move the story so that's why I call it 2513 01:45:38,860 --> 01:45:37,010 managing magic there's this story this 2514 01:45:40,330 --> 01:45:38,870 UFO story and sooner or later you got to 2515 01:45:42,340 --> 01:45:40,340 get this story out and what they're 2516 01:45:43,870 --> 01:45:42,350 trying to do as melinda Leslie said 2517 01:45:45,730 --> 01:45:43,880 you're spinning the story you're 2518 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:45,740 managing the story you're keeping it 2519 01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:47,570 away from classified material and you're 2520 01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:48,890 getting it to go in the direction you 2521 01:45:53,190 --> 01:45:51,530 want it to go slowly because you know 2522 01:45:57,670 --> 01:45:53,200 eventually you have to tell this story 2523 01:46:00,220 --> 01:45:57,680 well and it's all great and and laying 2524 01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:00,230 it out that way it makes a lot of sense 2525 01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:02,480 and I and I appreciate that but then 2526 01:46:07,030 --> 01:46:04,400 when I when I kind of push that to the 2527 01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:07,040 side these are the questions that I ask 2528 01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:09,470 myself I'm gonna ask you right now when 2529 01:46:13,930 --> 01:46:11,210 it comes to semi van when it comes to 2530 01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:13,940 justice when it comes to melon when it 2531 01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:17,810 comes to put off and KITT green that top 2532 01:46:21,190 --> 01:46:20,570 list of guys you notice who I left out I 2533 01:46:24,340 --> 01:46:21,200 left out 2534 01:46:29,530 --> 01:46:24,350 Elizondo now out of those guys on that 2535 01:46:30,340 --> 01:46:29,540 list have they ever seen something at 2536 01:46:33,670 --> 01:46:30,350 area 51 2537 01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:33,680 do they have official contact with et 2538 01:46:40,330 --> 01:46:37,520 have they been briefed and have been 2539 01:46:44,190 --> 01:46:40,340 shown the proof of et's existence or are 2540 01:46:46,510 --> 01:46:44,200 they ufologist number one number two has 2541 01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:46,520 Elizondo which he's avoided this 2542 01:46:56,110 --> 01:46:50,930 question like the plague has he seen 2543 01:46:59,620 --> 01:46:56,120 real stuff it has he been privy to this 2544 01:47:01,420 --> 01:46:59,630 or is his position that he's just a 2545 01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:01,430 ufologist walking the halls of the 2546 01:47:06,010 --> 01:47:03,410 Pentagon trying to figure this out - 2547 01:47:09,670 --> 01:47:06,020 that's the question I want to know if 2548 01:47:13,319 --> 01:47:09,680 these guys at T TSA are in possession of 2549 01:47:15,540 --> 01:47:13,329 the goods that's it yeah I'm not 2550 01:47:16,350 --> 01:47:15,550 I'm not sure depends who you're talking 2551 01:47:19,799 --> 01:47:16,360 about that means let me give you a 2552 01:47:22,169 --> 01:47:19,809 couple list though so out of that let's 2553 01:47:24,330 --> 01:47:22,179 pull a Elizondo off to the side but they 2554 01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:24,340 all said he'd never read a UFO book he 2555 01:47:28,830 --> 01:47:26,650 just got pulled in in 2008 got dragged 2556 01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:28,840 into this program and never read a UFO 2557 01:47:32,549 --> 01:47:31,090 book to keep himself and when he gets 2558 01:47:34,500 --> 01:47:32,559 asked those questions he said I still 2559 01:47:38,010 --> 01:47:34,510 have a security clearance the same as 2560 01:47:40,379 --> 01:47:38,020 he'll put off says exactly back to my 2561 01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:40,389 point I don't believe those words for a 2562 01:47:46,140 --> 01:47:43,840 second what's that they're gonna know he 2563 01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:46,150 has he hasn't ready you a full book he 2564 01:48:00,899 --> 01:47:48,730 knows nothing you know he didn't do that 2565 01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:00,909 until two that it's that right okay love 2566 01:48:07,530 --> 01:48:04,510 hello office bye-bye George George Knapp 2567 01:48:10,919 --> 01:48:07,540 he said do we have crashes have there 2568 01:48:12,899 --> 01:48:10,929 been crashes and there is a 10-second 2569 01:48:14,669 --> 01:48:12,909 pause and then George says even during 2570 01:48:17,180 --> 01:48:14,679 the pause he says well I guess that's an 2571 01:48:20,819 --> 01:48:17,190 answer right and then he'll says well 2572 01:48:23,970 --> 01:48:20,829 there's a UFO document that describes 2573 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:23,980 crashes that's legitimate I don't know 2574 01:48:29,879 --> 01:48:27,730 how it got out and and so he basically 2575 01:48:31,530 --> 01:48:29,889 confirms there is a high-level document 2576 01:48:34,350 --> 01:48:31,540 that he's confirmed that deals with 2577 01:48:36,419 --> 01:48:34,360 crashes that that that is out there so 2578 01:48:38,220 --> 01:48:36,429 there are crashes and when he's asked 2579 01:48:40,620 --> 01:48:38,230 about crash material he said I think 2580 01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:40,630 that's that kind of material is going to 2581 01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:42,489 be very highly classified that's exactly 2582 01:48:44,970 --> 01:48:42,730 right 2583 01:48:46,319 --> 01:48:44,980 he may not have access to back then that 2584 01:48:47,879 --> 01:48:46,329 kind of material will give you KITT 2585 01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:47,889 green you mentioned kid green yeah I 2586 01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:50,050 know from many years ago KITT green I 2587 01:48:54,209 --> 01:48:51,840 was told the story kid green is a 2588 01:48:56,580 --> 01:48:54,219 physiologist so he's a doctor type guy 2589 01:48:58,680 --> 01:48:56,590 and I heard that he knew a lot of stuff 2590 01:49:00,750 --> 01:48:58,690 because he was the the weird desk guy at 2591 01:49:02,069 --> 01:49:00,760 the CIA and he knew a lot of stuff he 2592 01:49:03,810 --> 01:49:02,079 was the guy that briefs the President on 2593 01:49:06,569 --> 01:49:03,820 UFOs and stuff like that but he could 2594 01:49:07,979 --> 01:49:06,579 never get read in on alien autopsies but 2595 01:49:10,140 --> 01:49:07,989 he was trying to get read in because 2596 01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:10,150 he's physiologist and they wouldn't eat 2597 01:49:13,799 --> 01:49:11,920 them in and so that's the way I look at 2598 01:49:15,089 --> 01:49:13,809 these guys is they're trying to figure 2599 01:49:16,589 --> 01:49:15,099 this thing out for themselves they're 2600 01:49:18,089 --> 01:49:16,599 trying to figure out all this kind of 2601 01:49:20,819 --> 01:49:18,099 stuff the same as kit Green tells a 2602 01:49:22,319 --> 01:49:20,829 story about going with with Helms this 2603 01:49:23,790 --> 01:49:22,329 very secret meeting I don't remember the 2604 01:49:25,890 --> 01:49:23,800 story very secret meeting was with 2605 01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:25,900 Richard Helms there's three people he's 2606 01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:27,110 supposed to give this code where 2607 01:49:30,190 --> 01:49:28,490 and this is kid green town the stork 2608 01:49:32,860 --> 01:49:30,200 it's not Richard Doty telling the story 2609 01:49:35,860 --> 01:49:32,870 and that's when when when he basically 2610 01:49:37,300 --> 01:49:35,870 says Helms is basically saying believe 2611 01:49:41,290 --> 01:49:37,310 everything Richard Doty tells you on 2612 01:49:43,570 --> 01:49:41,300 UFOs and then when when the they'd take 2613 01:49:45,190 --> 01:49:43,580 a rap on Richard Doty then suddenly kick 2614 01:49:46,750 --> 01:49:45,200 Greene says that Helms won't talk to him 2615 01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:46,760 again you and never ever talks to him 2616 01:49:49,810 --> 01:49:48,650 again and is in his life so you see 2617 01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:49,820 these things where these guys are 2618 01:49:53,290 --> 01:49:50,960 actually trying to figure it out the 2619 01:49:55,030 --> 01:49:53,300 same as hell there's the core story the 2620 01:49:57,250 --> 01:49:55,040 core story is that there have been 2621 01:49:59,380 --> 01:49:57,260 crashes we're not getting very far and 2622 01:50:00,850 --> 01:49:59,390 that's what this study shows that this 2623 01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:00,860 study that I'm I'm working on right now 2624 01:50:04,090 --> 01:50:02,690 shows that we haven't really gotten as 2625 01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:04,100 far as a lot of people are saying we're 2626 01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:06,110 getting so you have the core story you 2627 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:09,760 have hell put off jock valet and and 2628 01:50:14,110 --> 01:50:12,410 he'll put off Jacques valet and KITT 2629 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:14,120 green sit down at a Denny's restaurant 2630 01:50:18,910 --> 01:50:16,730 in 1987 and they come up with the core 2631 01:50:20,830 --> 01:50:18,920 story what are the things we know for 2632 01:50:23,260 --> 01:50:20,840 sure and whether they come out is that 2633 01:50:26,890 --> 01:50:23,270 they're there there is there was an ET 2634 01:50:30,670 --> 01:50:26,900 there is there was a crashes we're not 2635 01:50:32,260 --> 01:50:30,680 doing very well and that that's the core 2636 01:50:34,300 --> 01:50:32,270 story the rest of it we really don't 2637 01:50:35,950 --> 01:50:34,310 know and that became this sort of idea 2638 01:50:37,420 --> 01:50:35,960 of the core story so you see these guys 2639 01:50:39,490 --> 01:50:37,430 meeting together and trying to figure it 2640 01:50:40,690 --> 01:50:39,500 out themselves and I don't think so it's 2641 01:50:43,540 --> 01:50:40,700 it's a client it's a compartmentalized 2642 01:50:44,740 --> 01:50:43,550 thing so just because you're at some 2643 01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:44,750 level doesn't mean you know everything 2644 01:50:47,860 --> 01:50:46,130 you know a little a little bit you know 2645 01:50:49,180 --> 01:50:47,870 this part you know that part and you're 2646 01:50:51,130 --> 01:50:49,190 they're trying to figure it out as well 2647 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:51,140 that's why they're in the game the hell 2648 01:50:54,910 --> 01:50:52,250 put up doesn't need the money 2649 01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:54,920 he's like 80 some years old they're in 2650 01:50:57,220 --> 01:50:56,090 this thing for the game they're trying 2651 01:50:59,320 --> 01:50:57,230 to figure this thing out they're trained 2652 01:51:01,120 --> 01:50:59,330 it's like you and I like why did I not 2653 01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:01,130 quit I'm innocent forty-three years and 2654 01:51:05,290 --> 01:51:03,110 I said I'm dying to get out of this 2655 01:51:06,730 --> 01:51:05,300 story I hate this story and yet you keep 2656 01:51:10,210 --> 01:51:06,740 getting dragged in because you want to 2657 01:51:11,410 --> 01:51:10,220 figure it out you yeah and I think it's 2658 01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:11,420 the same with all these guys and I've 2659 01:51:15,250 --> 01:51:13,250 met a lot of these people and that's the 2660 01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:15,260 way it comes down to me is that they are 2661 01:51:19,090 --> 01:51:17,090 just they are down the rabbit hole just 2662 01:51:21,220 --> 01:51:19,100 the same as you and I trying to figure 2663 01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:21,230 this thing out and who knows the story 2664 01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:23,930 whether whoever's got the story it is 2665 01:51:27,700 --> 01:51:25,760 very very compartmentalized that's what 2666 01:51:29,440 --> 01:51:27,710 the Canadian government said in 1950 in 2667 01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:29,450 a top-secret memo it's the most highly 2668 01:51:33,940 --> 01:51:32,000 compartmentalized the highly most highly 2669 01:51:36,450 --> 01:51:33,950 classified subject in the United States 2670 01:51:38,050 --> 01:51:36,460 this and and these people through 2671 01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:38,060 compartmentalization will only know 2672 01:51:40,900 --> 01:51:39,770 little bits and pieces and they've 2673 01:51:43,150 --> 01:51:40,910 joined up to 2674 01:51:46,330 --> 01:51:43,160 to interact with others to figure out 2675 01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:46,340 more this story and and I know it okay 2676 01:51:51,480 --> 01:51:48,800 so this is and when we come back I'm 2677 01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:51,490 going to talk I want to talk about the 2678 01:51:56,020 --> 01:51:54,290 this warehouse out in Las Vegas this 2679 01:52:02,410 --> 01:51:56,030 Bigelow warehouse but before we get 2680 01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:02,420 there what what have we learned since 2681 01:52:12,330 --> 01:52:07,040 December 16th that is new that we didn't 2682 01:52:15,700 --> 01:52:12,340 know before Stephen Hawking has died 2683 01:52:21,460 --> 01:52:15,710 okay breaking news Stephen Hawking 2684 01:52:23,290 --> 01:52:21,470 everybody has died at the age of 76 it 2685 01:52:26,710 --> 01:52:23,300 is just breaking here it is coming 2686 01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:26,720 across the wire sorry to put a damper on 2687 01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:28,970 the show tonight Stephen Hawking has 2688 01:52:37,500 --> 01:52:35,840 passed at the age of 76 okay I'll get 2689 01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:37,510 I'll get some more information on this 2690 01:52:43,570 --> 01:52:40,370 during the top of the hour Stephen 2691 01:52:47,500 --> 01:52:43,580 Hawking passed away today March 13th at 2692 01:52:50,440 --> 01:52:47,510 the age of 76 okay back to where we were 2693 01:52:55,330 --> 01:52:50,450 sorry about that grant what what have we 2694 01:52:57,430 --> 01:52:55,340 learned that is new aside from not only 2695 01:53:00,130 --> 01:52:57,440 the Pentagon program which we don't even 2696 01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:00,140 know the official name of it but aside 2697 01:53:07,450 --> 01:53:03,440 from that what have we learned that is 2698 01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:07,460 new since December 16th my answer it's 2699 01:53:12,580 --> 01:53:09,650 nothing you know I don't have anything 2700 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:12,590 breaking to add to the to the puzzle 2701 01:53:17,380 --> 01:53:14,810 that I didn't know before December 16th 2702 01:53:19,750 --> 01:53:17,390 what for you what have we learned that 2703 01:53:21,670 --> 01:53:19,760 is new here or are they doing what 2704 01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:21,680 you're suggesting here and just 2705 01:53:26,410 --> 01:53:24,400 regurgitating and recycling the story 2706 01:53:28,420 --> 01:53:26,420 they're just doing the first part of the 2707 01:53:34,090 --> 01:53:28,430 story they're just doing the UFOs are 2708 01:53:36,220 --> 01:53:34,100 are real type thing there's no the idea 2709 01:53:40,450 --> 01:53:36,230 of aliens or where they're from or 2710 01:53:44,410 --> 01:53:40,460 crashes is years down the road so I 2711 01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:44,420 think intentionally they have you know 2712 01:53:48,670 --> 01:53:46,370 just dripping this thing out bit by bit 2713 01:53:51,550 --> 01:53:48,680 right just putting more stories into the 2714 01:53:54,700 --> 01:53:51,560 end of the media I can't even think of 2715 01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:54,710 anything I heard this story about 2716 01:54:00,490 --> 01:53:56,719 60 minute thing whether that's going to 2717 01:54:01,930 --> 01:54:00,500 come off or not that came after the same 2718 01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:01,940 thing that I heard before 2719 01:54:07,780 --> 01:54:05,840 it's a 16th you know we're about to drop 2720 01:54:09,700 --> 01:54:07,790 this thing there's more there's big 2721 01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:09,710 stuff almost what the the message you 2722 01:54:15,010 --> 01:54:11,930 got from from Tom DeLonge most of the 2723 01:54:16,930 --> 01:54:15,020 people in in that that that I use for 2724 01:54:19,330 --> 01:54:16,940 sources that sort of know what's going 2725 01:54:21,340 --> 01:54:19,340 on who are sort of nutty insiders yeah 2726 01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:21,350 insiders and sort of our insiders are 2727 01:54:27,190 --> 01:54:23,450 all saying the same thing that there's a 2728 01:54:31,630 --> 01:54:27,200 lot more to come that this thing is just 2729 01:54:33,010 --> 01:54:31,640 starting but in in terms of the thing 2730 01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:33,020 it's just a climatization that's what 2731 01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,400 they were basically doing I mean that's 2732 01:54:38,260 --> 01:54:36,800 what I learned from the 16th I thought 2733 01:54:39,580 --> 01:54:38,270 it was like a disclosure thing I thought 2734 01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:39,590 it was gonna you know sort of really 2735 01:54:44,590 --> 01:54:42,110 ramped up and suddenly I realized this 2736 01:54:47,770 --> 01:54:44,600 thing that no it's like almost like what 2737 01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:47,780 dr. Eric Walker told us in the 1990s why 2738 01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:49,610 should we change the rules to satisfy 2739 01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:52,130 your curiosity they could care less what 2740 01:54:55,420 --> 01:54:53,690 we think about this thing they're 2741 01:54:57,490 --> 01:54:55,430 they're running their little operation 2742 01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:57,500 and they really don't care what you 2743 01:55:01,510 --> 01:54:59,360 think or I think or who's fighting in 2744 01:55:03,700 --> 01:55:01,520 the UFO community they see us as a bunch 2745 01:55:05,890 --> 01:55:03,710 of nut cases that are just going to get 2746 01:55:07,209 --> 01:55:05,900 in the way we had our chance to bring 2747 01:55:09,670 --> 01:55:07,219 out the story we didn't bring out the 2748 01:55:10,770 --> 01:55:09,680 story and now they're gonna do it their 2749 01:55:13,390 --> 01:55:10,780 way 2750 01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:13,400 unbelievable I you know and in the other 2751 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:15,650 partner I want to talk about this when 2752 01:55:20,220 --> 01:55:18,530 we come back this warehouse out there 2753 01:55:25,090 --> 01:55:20,230 and I want you to think about this 2754 01:55:29,140 --> 01:55:25,100 during a break but my question is a very 2755 01:55:31,990 --> 01:55:29,150 basic and simple one is the debris that 2756 01:55:36,490 --> 01:55:32,000 they have is it from a crashed craft 2757 01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:36,500 that was retrieved the the material by 2758 01:55:41,950 --> 01:55:38,719 the government and given the Bigelow out 2759 01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:41,960 there to study or is it from civilians 2760 01:55:49,930 --> 01:55:44,450 and it's trace evidence collected at the 2761 01:55:52,180 --> 01:55:49,940 scene I think that is paramount here you 2762 01:55:56,050 --> 01:55:52,190 know paramount is this is this from a 2763 01:55:58,660 --> 01:55:56,060 Bob Lazar craft right or is it something 2764 01:56:01,650 --> 01:55:58,670 else that is just a nominalism that was 2765 01:56:04,510 --> 01:56:01,660 collected somewhere that's that's what I 2766 01:56:07,450 --> 01:56:04,520 what is it before you claim that it is 2767 01:56:11,260 --> 01:56:07,460 alien I'm talking about you know 2768 01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:11,270 Bigelow or to the stars where is the 2769 01:56:16,870 --> 01:56:13,610 provenance where is the chain of custody 2770 01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:16,880 where did it come from that that's 2771 01:56:22,780 --> 01:56:19,850 that's all I want to know that and 2772 01:56:24,340 --> 01:56:22,790 that's that I think that joy no no no we 2773 01:56:27,580 --> 01:56:24,350 have to take a break right here 2774 01:56:30,540 --> 01:56:27,590 and I want to remind everybody that in 2775 01:56:34,570 --> 01:56:30,550 three minutes the countdown starts on 2776 01:56:37,660 --> 01:56:34,580 stellar will launch in 3 minutes 9 p.m. 2777 01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:37,670 here on the Pacific coast and midnight 2778 01:56:42,490 --> 01:56:39,530 on the East Coast you will be able to go 2779 01:56:45,700 --> 01:56:42,500 and register use the promo code Jimmy ji 2780 01:56:48,130 --> 01:56:45,710 mm why when you register go and reserve 2781 01:56:51,820 --> 01:56:48,140 your screen name now for this exciting 2782 01:56:54,970 --> 01:56:51,830 new online community for the paranormal 2783 01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:54,980 and I'm gonna talk to grant after the 2784 01:57:00,490 --> 01:56:57,650 show tonight about on stellar because I 2785 01:57:04,300 --> 01:57:00,500 think tomorrow grant is gonna be right 2786 01:57:07,330 --> 01:57:04,310 there with us without seller and so I'm 2787 01:57:09,930 --> 01:57:07,340 gonna take a break right here this the 2788 01:57:13,300 --> 01:57:09,940 Stephen Hawking thing really bums me out 2789 01:57:17,140 --> 01:57:13,310 I don't know if you ever had the chance 2790 01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:17,150 to meet uh Stephen grant but I did and 2791 01:57:21,910 --> 01:57:19,610 I've got I've got some really cool 2792 01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:21,920 pictures that I took this is about ten 2793 01:57:26,770 --> 01:57:24,890 years ago and I'm gonna go peel those 2794 01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:26,780 off a cell phone I never thought that 2795 01:57:30,910 --> 01:57:29,450 this day would would come where I would 2796 01:57:31,990 --> 01:57:30,920 have to go and pull these out and take a 2797 01:57:33,940 --> 01:57:32,000 look at them again 2798 01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:33,950 you think everybody's gonna live forever 2799 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:36,890 right that's just the way it goes very 2800 01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:38,690 bummed about this but yes Stephen 2801 01:57:45,610 --> 01:57:43,250 Hawking passed away a little earlier 2802 01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:45,620 this evening and I'm gonna take a break 2803 01:57:49,209 --> 01:57:47,330 right now we'll be right back continue 2804 01:57:52,270 --> 01:57:49,219 this discussion with the one and only 2805 01:57:53,470 --> 01:57:52,280 Grant Cameron and as promised 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2892 02:01:55,780 --> 02:01:53,160 you wanna know a secret I love ponies I 2893 02:01:58,400 --> 02:01:55,790 really love ponies I'm serious I 2894 02:02:02,450 --> 02:01:58,410 couldn't stay sane without poor mr. 2895 02:02:07,540 --> 02:02:02,460 Brooks why fade to black because you 2896 02:02:11,540 --> 02:02:09,620 this is fade to black 2897 02:02:15,229 --> 02:02:11,550 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 2898 02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:15,239 radio network and kgr a the global radio 2899 02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:17,590 alliance 2900 02:02:32,610 --> 02:02:29,610 [Music] 2901 02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:32,620 all right welcome back fade to black 2902 02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:35,410 our guest tonight the one and only I say 2903 02:02:39,900 --> 02:02:38,110 it often about grant but I don't say it 2904 02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:39,910 about anybody else and I think all of 2905 02:02:48,390 --> 02:02:45,010 you know that all right I'm tweeting out 2906 02:02:50,850 --> 02:02:48,400 now there it is on stellar dot-com use 2907 02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:50,860 promo code Jimmy you can now go and 2908 02:02:58,320 --> 02:02:54,610 register and this portion of the show is 2909 02:03:00,570 --> 02:02:58,330 proudly brought to you by new man new 2910 02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:00,580 manna emergency food storage for you and 2911 02:03:05,610 --> 02:03:03,490 your family use the promo code what are 2912 02:03:08,010 --> 02:03:05,620 we using for an amount of Jimmy Jimmy 2913 02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:08,020 for the promo code there and you'll get 2914 02:03:12,060 --> 02:03:09,490 yourself an autograph fade to black 2915 02:03:19,230 --> 02:03:12,070 t-shirt hey grant do you have a fade to 2916 02:03:21,990 --> 02:03:19,240 black t-shirt no I don't why not make 2917 02:03:24,660 --> 02:03:22,000 any sense to me how could you not have a 2918 02:03:26,190 --> 02:03:24,670 fade to black t-shirt I'll get one in 2919 02:03:30,270 --> 02:03:26,200 Los Angeles you're gonna have somebody 2920 02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:30,280 there yeah I will take care of it what 2921 02:03:36,150 --> 02:03:34,090 sighs let's go with large and I will 2922 02:03:38,340 --> 02:03:36,160 take a picture and you can well I'm 2923 02:03:41,370 --> 02:03:38,350 gonna be lively I'm gonna be live on the 2924 02:03:43,140 --> 02:03:41,380 air that night so but I'm saying I'll 2925 02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:43,150 take picture with somebody oh oh yeah 2926 02:03:48,540 --> 02:03:46,210 now that would be cool just to prove 2927 02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:48,550 that I that I've got yeah you know I 2928 02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:52,450 have got you and I I don't even know if 2929 02:03:57,510 --> 02:03:55,330 you remember this I think it was about 2930 02:03:59,700 --> 02:03:57,520 five years ago you were speaking here in 2931 02:04:01,470 --> 02:03:59,710 Los Angeles yeah and you and I got a 2932 02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:01,480 chance to hang out that night it was one 2933 02:04:06,150 --> 02:04:03,040 of the coolest nights ever and you know 2934 02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:06,160 we only took one picture that night but 2935 02:04:11,790 --> 02:04:08,290 but I have it's like one of my prized 2936 02:04:13,110 --> 02:04:11,800 possessions man this one right so yeah 2937 02:04:16,260 --> 02:04:13,120 you're gonna be here next week next 2938 02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:16,270 Tuesday and Wednesday had you pars and 2939 02:04:21,510 --> 02:04:19,930 of course mufon Orange County and both 2940 02:04:23,010 --> 02:04:21,520 of those events are gonna sell out it's 2941 02:04:25,710 --> 02:04:23,020 gonna be standing room only because it 2942 02:04:27,870 --> 02:04:25,720 is grant and he's coming into town but I 2943 02:04:30,780 --> 02:04:27,880 wish I could be there this is the thing 2944 02:04:32,700 --> 02:04:30,790 gran especially with you pars and mufon 2945 02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:32,710 Orange County they do their events on 2946 02:04:36,900 --> 02:04:35,110 Tuesday and Wednesday night I'm on the 2947 02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:36,910 air every night if they did it on a 2948 02:04:41,140 --> 02:04:39,970 Saturday or Sunday I could go I have 2949 02:04:44,709 --> 02:04:41,150 missed 2950 02:04:46,149 --> 02:04:44,719 years of really great people speaking at 2951 02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:46,159 both of those events because I'm always 2952 02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:47,690 on the air everybody else gets to have 2953 02:04:52,689 --> 02:04:50,570 fun I'm stuck here in the bunker you 2954 02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:52,699 know to in shows every night I don't get 2955 02:04:56,590 --> 02:04:55,130 to do the fun stuff you've got the more 2956 02:04:58,240 --> 02:04:56,600 power do they tape these because that's 2957 02:05:00,310 --> 02:04:58,250 what I always find disappointing in the 2958 02:05:01,689 --> 02:05:00,320 UFO community is you work on a lecture 2959 02:05:03,430 --> 02:05:01,699 and then you go to a conference and 2960 02:05:05,830 --> 02:05:03,440 there's like 75 people and you go like I 2961 02:05:08,050 --> 02:05:05,840 worked on too much two months for 75 2962 02:05:09,729 --> 02:05:08,060 people you know with with if you got a 2963 02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:09,739 radio show or YouTube channel or 2964 02:05:13,540 --> 02:05:11,690 something I mean sometimes you look at 2965 02:05:17,290 --> 02:05:13,550 it and you're talking to its stadiums 2966 02:05:19,709 --> 02:05:17,300 full of people right yeah yeah that you 2967 02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:19,719 know you bring up a really good point 2968 02:05:26,380 --> 02:05:23,810 our audience here it's frigging large 2969 02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:26,390 there's no doubt about that and you know 2970 02:05:30,550 --> 02:05:28,130 and you throw in coast to coast and 2971 02:05:34,090 --> 02:05:30,560 suddenly in a week I could be speaking 2972 02:05:37,270 --> 02:05:34,100 literally to millions of people but you 2973 02:05:40,660 --> 02:05:37,280 on the other hand you are able to go out 2974 02:05:43,930 --> 02:05:40,670 there one on one with an audience which 2975 02:05:45,490 --> 02:05:43,940 I enjoy that so much more you're gonna 2976 02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:45,500 have at you parts you're gonna have a 2977 02:05:48,459 --> 02:05:46,880 couple hundred people there right 2978 02:05:50,620 --> 02:05:48,469 standing-room-only same thing MUFON 2979 02:05:54,130 --> 02:05:50,630 Orange County is really good plus your 2980 02:05:55,750 --> 02:05:54,140 grant Cameron but I when you did when 2981 02:05:58,419 --> 02:05:55,760 you spoke out here five years ago that 2982 02:05:59,890 --> 02:05:58,429 was a packed house man that was uh that 2983 02:06:04,149 --> 02:05:59,900 was a really really good presentation 2984 02:06:05,890 --> 02:06:04,159 and I remember yeah that's right it was 2985 02:06:08,770 --> 02:06:05,900 Yvonne Smith yeah it was Yvonne Smith 2986 02:06:13,090 --> 02:06:08,780 and you spoke about and you had you had 2987 02:06:14,590 --> 02:06:13,100 everybody riveted you had a somebody 2988 02:06:18,700 --> 02:06:14,600 just posted words might fade to black 2989 02:06:22,300 --> 02:06:18,710 t-shirt incredible you spoke about rock 2990 02:06:25,390 --> 02:06:22,310 stars and music and UFOs and and contact 2991 02:06:27,100 --> 02:06:25,400 in lyrics and it was it was awesome man 2992 02:06:29,380 --> 02:06:27,110 that was uh that was a really good 2993 02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:29,390 presentation that book is just released 2994 02:06:32,229 --> 02:06:30,770 yesterday we finally released the book 2995 02:06:34,300 --> 02:06:32,239 it's been that's all I'm saying I've 2996 02:06:36,669 --> 02:06:34,310 just I can't get anything done I'm just 2997 02:06:38,380 --> 02:06:36,679 this story just sort of you know I keep 2998 02:06:40,120 --> 02:06:38,390 watching these hundred people and what's 2999 02:06:42,310 --> 02:06:40,130 going on and we finally got the book and 3000 02:06:43,899 --> 02:06:42,320 then the girl put it out for me 3001 02:06:45,340 --> 02:06:43,909 she said well do you want to do the 3002 02:06:46,990 --> 02:06:45,350 press release or whatever I said nah I 3003 02:06:48,729 --> 02:06:47,000 wait till I get back in California I 3004 02:06:51,310 --> 02:06:48,739 just I've got time to do interviews now 3005 02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:51,320 on on rock music I'm not in me I almost 3006 02:06:54,910 --> 02:06:53,210 have to reread the book because it's 3007 02:06:56,620 --> 02:06:54,920 been like two years since that book was 3008 02:06:59,350 --> 02:06:56,630 as finally was released yesterday so 3009 02:07:02,380 --> 02:06:59,360 that the whole book on how many you know 3010 02:07:03,790 --> 02:07:02,390 musicians have been abducted and and how 3011 02:07:05,500 --> 02:07:03,800 many had UFO sightings over their 3012 02:07:08,650 --> 02:07:05,510 concerts and all this kind of stuff you 3013 02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:08,660 know it took two years to get out but 3014 02:07:12,940 --> 02:07:10,610 it's finally oh so now that was and now 3015 02:07:15,100 --> 02:07:12,950 you got to write a Tom DeLonge addendum 3016 02:07:17,350 --> 02:07:15,110 well yeah I'm halfway through that I 3017 02:07:20,230 --> 02:07:17,360 I've done a lot I've done maybe about 3018 02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:20,240 eight hours of updates and I have a lot 3019 02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:22,250 of people inside that are sort of doing 3020 02:07:25,770 --> 02:07:23,930 this sort of stuff and I'm sort of 3021 02:07:27,850 --> 02:07:25,780 betting the fact that they are going to 3022 02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:27,860 actually sell the farm here I mean they 3023 02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:28,970 are going they're going to pull this 3024 02:07:34,570 --> 02:07:31,490 thing off so I'm just betting on that 3025 02:07:35,650 --> 02:07:34,580 and just recording everything as it as 3026 02:07:37,390 --> 02:07:35,660 it takes place and when you start 3027 02:07:38,980 --> 02:07:37,400 looking there's a lot of interviews a 3028 02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:38,990 lot of stuff is happening a lot of 3029 02:07:42,910 --> 02:07:41,330 people are talking so we'll see where it 3030 02:07:44,500 --> 02:07:42,920 goes but I've got and the other one I'm 3031 02:07:46,990 --> 02:07:44,510 doing is the I know I'm gonna have to do 3032 02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:47,000 the book on the on this presidential 3033 02:07:51,550 --> 02:07:49,130 briefing thing and we're coming out with 3034 02:07:53,740 --> 02:07:51,560 a book on Barry Goldwater's files I 3035 02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:53,750 found those a couple of years ago he 3036 02:07:57,670 --> 02:07:55,490 correspond with a lot of people on UFO 3037 02:07:59,410 --> 02:07:57,680 stuff so and he's a senator now you have 3038 02:08:01,000 --> 02:07:59,420 this whole thing with Harry Reid who I 3039 02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:01,010 will tell you was briefed he had a 3040 02:08:07,090 --> 02:08:04,370 classified briefing on UFOs and so now 3041 02:08:09,250 --> 02:08:07,100 you have we're gonna bring that that 3042 02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:09,260 book out and there's just so much 3043 02:08:15,130 --> 02:08:12,290 material it's it's just there's no time 3044 02:08:16,270 --> 02:08:15,140 to do anything it's sort of like I never 3045 02:08:17,650 --> 02:08:16,280 would have believed it would get like 3046 02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:17,660 this I thought I'd I get into 3047 02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:18,890 consciousness because you know that's my 3048 02:08:22,780 --> 02:08:21,170 main field right you know the the whole 3049 02:08:24,700 --> 02:08:22,790 thing with you know they fly the flying 3050 02:08:26,470 --> 02:08:24,710 saucer with consciousness and and that's 3051 02:08:29,110 --> 02:08:26,480 what the world is all about and stuff 3052 02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:29,120 and I haven't done that for so long it's 3053 02:08:32,710 --> 02:08:31,370 just because you just can't leave this 3054 02:08:34,870 --> 02:08:32,720 story alone it's just so much material 3055 02:08:37,030 --> 02:08:34,880 happening that and my life has sort of 3056 02:08:40,030 --> 02:08:37,040 been taken over and now what do you 3057 02:08:42,610 --> 02:08:40,040 think about this warehouse know again my 3058 02:08:45,310 --> 02:08:42,620 opinion does not matter my opinion 3059 02:08:47,530 --> 02:08:45,320 doesn't matter but my questions 3060 02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:47,540 I think matter and need to be answered 3061 02:08:52,900 --> 02:08:49,490 what do you think they're in possession 3062 02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:52,910 of okay well I'll talk about what I know 3063 02:08:57,580 --> 02:08:54,770 about metals I I would say that the the 3064 02:08:59,020 --> 02:08:57,590 buildings is really got nothing to do 3065 02:09:01,330 --> 02:08:59,030 with warehouses it's got to do with 3066 02:09:04,630 --> 02:09:01,340 creating a secure facility that if 3067 02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:04,640 you're going to handle top-secret crash 3068 02:09:08,779 --> 02:09:07,010 material or whatever you need ask if and 3069 02:09:10,309 --> 02:09:08,789 if in the interview that you did but 3070 02:09:12,289 --> 02:09:10,319 Tom DeLonge he talks about being in the 3071 02:09:14,869 --> 02:09:12,299 skiff with the you know with the white 3072 02:09:17,449 --> 02:09:14,879 noise right and the seals and and all 3073 02:09:19,099 --> 02:09:17,459 the tumblers and the the the vaults and 3074 02:09:21,289 --> 02:09:19,109 the people with machine guns that's what 3075 02:09:23,179 --> 02:09:21,299 you need so that it's not so much a team 3076 02:09:25,369 --> 02:09:23,189 he has these huge crafts that he has to 3077 02:09:27,079 --> 02:09:25,379 maintain with her I that's my and I'm 3078 02:09:28,279 --> 02:09:27,089 just guessing it's just that he's got to 3079 02:09:29,839 --> 02:09:28,289 create a skip he's got to create a 3080 02:09:31,429 --> 02:09:29,849 secure environment because now he's 3081 02:09:32,599 --> 02:09:31,439 working for the US government and the US 3082 02:09:35,089 --> 02:09:32,609 government is going to be done by the 3083 02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:35,099 book it's gonna be six seven layers of 3084 02:09:39,319 --> 02:09:37,199 paperwork and all this kind of stuff all 3085 02:09:41,029 --> 02:09:39,329 these rules and how to handle classified 3086 02:09:42,859 --> 02:09:41,039 material and everything has to be in a 3087 02:09:44,179 --> 02:09:42,869 you know a vault and you know all this 3088 02:09:45,439 --> 02:09:44,189 kind of stuff so that's so I think 3089 02:09:48,619 --> 02:09:45,449 that's about but I'll tell you about my 3090 02:09:50,629 --> 02:09:48,629 my understanding of the metals there you 3091 02:09:52,969 --> 02:09:50,639 gotta remember that that all this 3092 02:09:55,939 --> 02:09:52,979 material everything is controlled by Bob 3093 02:09:59,779 --> 02:09:55,949 Bigelow he's this genius guy who 3094 02:10:02,119 --> 02:09:59,789 basically was able to use other people's 3095 02:10:04,399 --> 02:10:02,129 money and get control it's almost like 3096 02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:04,409 the guy in contact he controls 3097 02:10:10,459 --> 02:10:07,679 everything now all the UFO reports the 3098 02:10:11,989 --> 02:10:10,469 UFO hardware that that's that's in 3099 02:10:14,569 --> 02:10:11,999 private not they very highly classified 3100 02:10:18,709 --> 02:10:14,579 crash material but in terms of the 3101 02:10:20,179 --> 02:10:18,719 material that was gathered by a tip all 3102 02:10:21,799 --> 02:10:20,189 this kind of stuff but he's been 3103 02:10:23,270 --> 02:10:21,809 gathering this material for years and 3104 02:10:26,449 --> 02:10:23,280 years and years he had you know the 3105 02:10:32,239 --> 02:10:26,459 consciousness studies at UNLV 3106 02:10:34,759 --> 02:10:32,249 he had needs he did the he financed a 3107 02:10:36,289 --> 02:10:34,769 lot of people he financed some abduction 3108 02:10:41,869 --> 02:10:36,299 research he bought up the carpenter 3109 02:10:43,279 --> 02:10:41,879 files he financed MUFON that's what my 3110 02:10:45,020 --> 02:10:43,289 name is coming from you fine he got 3111 02:10:49,219 --> 02:10:45,030 their files he got the cane and files 3112 02:10:51,589 --> 02:10:49,229 out of out of BC so he gathered all this 3113 02:10:54,319 --> 02:10:51,599 material and has this this huge 3114 02:10:55,459 --> 02:10:54,329 collection of material so some of the 3115 02:10:57,379 --> 02:10:55,469 material that he's been working on 3116 02:10:59,209 --> 02:10:57,389 previous was metal material for example 3117 02:11:02,239 --> 02:10:59,219 Jacques Vallee who's always been very 3118 02:11:03,709 --> 02:11:02,249 close to needs whether who's getting 3119 02:11:05,539 --> 02:11:03,719 funding from Bigelow or whatever but 3120 02:11:08,659 --> 02:11:05,549 Jacques Vallee talks about the implants 3121 02:11:10,159 --> 02:11:08,669 the John of the Lear implants and he 3122 02:11:12,500 --> 02:11:10,169 said I was very skeptical and then when 3123 02:11:14,629 --> 02:11:12,510 I worked on them through Bigelow I guess 3124 02:11:17,809 --> 02:11:14,639 they did research or they they did all 3125 02:11:19,729 --> 02:11:17,819 this metal research on the implants and 3126 02:11:21,379 --> 02:11:19,739 then he said I'm a lot less skeptical 3127 02:11:22,370 --> 02:11:21,389 about the implants so that will be one 3128 02:11:23,780 --> 02:11:22,380 type of metal 3129 02:11:26,209 --> 02:11:23,790 the other one is the one that that 3130 02:11:27,770 --> 02:11:26,219 helped put off is now help put off 3131 02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:27,780 Jacques Vallee is now running around 3132 02:11:31,490 --> 02:11:29,850 lecturing on and that is these things 3133 02:11:33,020 --> 02:11:31,500 where you have the UFO that pretends 3134 02:11:34,490 --> 02:11:33,030 it's like a you know a bird with a 3135 02:11:35,930 --> 02:11:34,500 broken wing and it's sort of flipping 3136 02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:35,940 around and it's like it's gonna crash 3137 02:11:39,709 --> 02:11:37,679 and it shoots out the metal and this has 3138 02:11:41,629 --> 02:11:39,719 happened lots of times in history and 3139 02:11:43,459 --> 02:11:41,639 Jack ballet has collected all this metal 3140 02:11:45,169 --> 02:11:43,469 he's gathered these various stories 3141 02:11:46,970 --> 02:11:45,179 where the UFO shoots out this metal and 3142 02:11:48,500 --> 02:11:46,980 of course in the old days it was like oh 3143 02:11:50,300 --> 02:11:48,510 it's a hoax these people are just making 3144 02:11:52,340 --> 02:11:50,310 this up it's just aluminum it's just 3145 02:11:54,890 --> 02:11:52,350 this it's nickel and zinc it's whatever 3146 02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:54,900 and and then he did these analysis and 3147 02:11:58,820 --> 02:11:57,090 found these isotopes so this is going to 3148 02:12:00,470 --> 02:11:58,830 be part of probably part of the metal 3149 02:12:01,610 --> 02:12:00,480 that's part of that collection is these 3150 02:12:03,649 --> 02:12:01,620 things where he talks about these 3151 02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:03,659 isotopes are way out there out by like 3152 02:12:07,669 --> 02:12:05,730 30 percent or whatever and but then they 3153 02:12:08,750 --> 02:12:07,679 always go back it's the these the same 3154 02:12:11,060 --> 02:12:08,760 sort of thing it's the confirmation 3155 02:12:12,850 --> 02:12:11,070 thing it's the idea that these metals 3156 02:12:15,169 --> 02:12:12,860 don't prove anything this is not 3157 02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:15,179 extraterrestrial metal this is not ET 3158 02:12:20,750 --> 02:12:18,090 metal this is meta meta materials it's 3159 02:12:23,510 --> 02:12:20,760 material that we cannot develop we 3160 02:12:26,540 --> 02:12:23,520 cannot produce we cannot produce these 3161 02:12:28,430 --> 02:12:26,550 type of isotopes today and therefore it 3162 02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:28,440 shows the same as the videos it shows 3163 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:30,210 something very strange is going on but 3164 02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:32,250 it doesn't necessarily it's goes back to 3165 02:12:35,930 --> 02:12:34,290 this don't go do the alien thing it 3166 02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:35,940 doesn't necessarily mean that it's 3167 02:12:39,050 --> 02:12:37,770 extraterrestrial it just says that this 3168 02:12:41,439 --> 02:12:39,060 is very strange material that we can't 3169 02:12:44,030 --> 02:12:41,449 produce so you have those you have the 3170 02:12:45,649 --> 02:12:44,040 layered piece that Tom DeLonge talked 3171 02:12:47,689 --> 02:12:45,659 about I know if we talked about on your 3172 02:12:52,370 --> 02:12:47,699 show but he talked about this piece this 3173 02:12:54,590 --> 02:12:52,380 80 levels 80 piece you know very thin 3174 02:12:57,410 --> 02:12:54,600 layers of metal layered on top of each 3175 02:12:59,780 --> 02:12:57,420 other and it was almost like the arts 3176 02:13:01,520 --> 02:12:59,790 parts that Linda worked on years ago 3177 02:13:03,169 --> 02:13:01,530 with the same sort of thing this layered 3178 02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:03,179 thing and he was supposed to showing up 3179 02:13:05,780 --> 02:13:04,530 at the Grove that was gonna they're 3180 02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:05,790 gonna have this meeting at the Grove 3181 02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:07,920 that that surf at he was gonna run and 3182 02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:09,690 this metal was gonna show up there so 3183 02:13:12,709 --> 02:13:11,040 you have that piece of metal and that's 3184 02:13:14,300 --> 02:13:12,719 the one that they say has the weird 3185 02:13:16,129 --> 02:13:14,310 properties that help put off this talked 3186 02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:16,139 about it has these weird properties that 3187 02:13:20,300 --> 02:13:19,199 when you bombard it or whatever it they 3188 02:13:21,800 --> 02:13:20,310 think that that has something to do it's 3189 02:13:23,629 --> 02:13:21,810 a propulsion system so you have that 3190 02:13:25,939 --> 02:13:23,639 layered piece then you have the piece 3191 02:13:27,140 --> 02:13:25,949 with the with a New Mexico one and I've 3192 02:13:28,850 --> 02:13:27,150 actually got a piece of this I was 3193 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:28,860 actually given a piece to this this is a 3194 02:13:33,740 --> 02:13:31,290 crash site and if you I know if you've 3195 02:13:35,959 --> 02:13:33,750 know about Diane Poe salka is one of the 3196 02:13:37,879 --> 02:13:35,969 people she just released a book 3197 02:13:39,620 --> 02:13:37,889 and ANFO salka was one of the people as 3198 02:13:42,140 --> 02:13:39,630 part of this cosmic club she got dragged 3199 02:13:45,049 --> 02:13:42,150 into this thing is sort of not what to 3200 02:13:46,489 --> 02:13:45,059 the stars but sort of his dealing with 3201 02:13:48,620 --> 02:13:46,499 all there's a whole group of people that 3202 02:13:49,819 --> 02:13:48,630 are sort of on the edges of this thing 3203 02:13:51,799 --> 02:13:49,829 watching what's going on they're being 3204 02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:51,809 given material whatever she's a religion 3205 02:13:55,009 --> 02:13:53,010 professor at the University of North 3206 02:13:57,319 --> 02:13:55,019 Carolina and she tells this story about 3207 02:13:59,299 --> 02:13:57,329 a guy a Nassau guy this is an 3208 02:14:01,759 --> 02:13:59,309 experiencer guy that I referred to is 3209 02:14:03,379 --> 02:14:01,769 he's not outed himself yet but he takes 3210 02:14:06,020 --> 02:14:03,389 her he tells the story that he takes her 3211 02:14:08,359 --> 02:14:06,030 to a crash site in New Mexico and this 3212 02:14:11,779 --> 02:14:08,369 is not the Roswell crash site or the the 3213 02:14:14,180 --> 02:14:11,789 1945 paula harris site or any of those 3214 02:14:16,969 --> 02:14:14,190 sites this is a site where he takes her 3215 02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:16,979 and she's blindfolded with another 3216 02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:18,690 professor from the University of North 3217 02:14:21,950 --> 02:14:20,610 Carolina and they they have to wear 3218 02:14:23,509 --> 02:14:21,960 these blindfolds and they take us they 3219 02:14:25,580 --> 02:14:23,519 can't find where the site was and I'm 3220 02:14:27,229 --> 02:14:25,590 thinking well I know where this comes 3221 02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:27,239 from because my friend here in Winnipeg 3222 02:14:33,379 --> 02:14:29,610 is the guy that showed the Nassau guy 3223 02:14:35,660 --> 02:14:33,389 where this site was and so I have an in 3224 02:14:38,149 --> 02:14:35,670 one of my updates actually show mint 3225 02:14:40,279 --> 02:14:38,159 metal from that crash site and so that 3226 02:14:42,500 --> 02:14:40,289 material I think is is part of this 3227 02:14:45,109 --> 02:14:42,510 collection at in this in this warehouse 3228 02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:45,119 this comes from this site in in New 3229 02:14:51,890 --> 02:14:49,920 Mexico which it is I guess it's still 3230 02:14:54,259 --> 02:14:51,900 got metal there and the other one is a 3231 02:14:58,509 --> 02:14:54,269 piece that I've seen I've seen 3232 02:15:00,979 --> 02:14:58,519 photographs of that I was assured is 3233 02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:00,989 very very strange piece of material it 3234 02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:02,610 doesn't look very strange I mean it 3235 02:15:05,989 --> 02:15:04,320 doesn't look like anything it would be 3236 02:15:09,379 --> 02:15:05,999 off a spacecraft it looks pretty you 3237 02:15:11,180 --> 02:15:09,389 know bizarre melted type stuff but it 3238 02:15:13,370 --> 02:15:11,190 was assured because it was handed off by 3239 02:15:15,080 --> 02:15:13,380 the I believe by the Nassau guy to say 3240 02:15:16,759 --> 02:15:15,090 this this is a legitimate piece that's 3241 02:15:19,040 --> 02:15:16,769 been analyzed and and it's one of these 3242 02:15:20,660 --> 02:15:19,050 strange pieces but again it goes back to 3243 02:15:21,379 --> 02:15:20,670 what the Canadian said is this really 3244 02:15:23,419 --> 02:15:21,389 doesn't prove anything 3245 02:15:25,609 --> 02:15:23,429 this just says yes we are dealing with 3246 02:15:27,379 --> 02:15:25,619 something very very bizarre but I'll 3247 02:15:28,310 --> 02:15:27,389 guarantee you when they because justice 3248 02:15:30,020 --> 02:15:28,320 is supposed to be bringing out this 3249 02:15:32,049 --> 02:15:30,030 piece and what the piece I think they're 3250 02:15:35,239 --> 02:15:32,059 gonna bring out is this layered piece of 3251 02:15:37,100 --> 02:15:35,249 metal and that we're you it has these 3252 02:15:39,350 --> 02:15:37,110 strange properties when you bombard it 3253 02:15:41,419 --> 02:15:39,360 and it these anti-gravity properties 3254 02:15:43,219 --> 02:15:41,429 that is the piece I think that they will 3255 02:15:45,049 --> 02:15:43,229 be showing and they've Tom Long's talked 3256 02:15:47,479 --> 02:15:45,059 about showing that will make a big hit 3257 02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:47,489 in the the media will lap that up and 3258 02:15:50,740 --> 02:15:49,130 then they're gonna move it back 3259 02:15:52,270 --> 02:15:50,750 they're gonna walk the story back and 3260 02:15:53,980 --> 02:15:52,280 they're gonna say this this doesn't mean 3261 02:15:56,350 --> 02:15:53,990 it's alien this doesn't mean it's from 3262 02:15:58,720 --> 02:15:56,360 Zeta Reticuli it just says this is very 3263 02:16:00,340 --> 02:15:58,730 strange and and the you know the 3264 02:16:01,990 --> 02:16:00,350 Russians could get this before us and 3265 02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:02,000 the Chinese could get it before us and 3266 02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:03,770 we've got to spend some money and we've 3267 02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:05,210 got to get congressional hearings and 3268 02:16:09,070 --> 02:16:07,280 they go down that route that you know we 3269 02:16:11,980 --> 02:16:09,080 we need some attention to this but 3270 02:16:14,910 --> 02:16:11,990 they're not gonna go the alien thing for 3271 02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:14,920 a long long time as far as I'm aware 3272 02:16:21,340 --> 02:16:19,520 is there any word about because Doty 3273 02:16:23,650 --> 02:16:21,350 came on the show and and spoke about 3274 02:16:24,580 --> 02:16:23,660 this where he was he was briefed on 3275 02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:24,590 Roswell 3276 02:16:32,980 --> 02:16:29,210 watched a film read documents is there 3277 02:16:37,030 --> 02:16:32,990 any word about that when when it comes 3278 02:16:39,430 --> 02:16:37,040 to moving forward here debris that was a 3279 02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:39,440 crashed you know is there is there 3280 02:16:45,371 --> 02:16:42,610 anything about Roswell when this chatter 3281 02:16:48,850 --> 02:16:45,381 floats around about what we are going 3282 02:16:50,920 --> 02:16:48,860 through now and the Pentagon no no 3283 02:16:53,260 --> 02:16:50,930 that's that's again if you if you listen 3284 02:16:55,600 --> 02:16:53,270 to help put off help put off will say 3285 02:16:58,930 --> 02:16:55,610 when when he makes reference he says 3286 02:17:00,700 --> 02:16:58,940 that's probably pretty highly classified 3287 02:17:02,410 --> 02:17:00,710 and he would know the rules he would 3288 02:17:04,210 --> 02:17:02,420 know he may he may have heard some 3289 02:17:05,860 --> 02:17:04,220 stories about it he may have been 3290 02:17:07,480 --> 02:17:05,870 briefed on it but they ain't going there 3291 02:17:09,220 --> 02:17:07,490 because it always comes down to the it's 3292 02:17:11,320 --> 02:17:09,230 the idea that if you're in the 3293 02:17:13,780 --> 02:17:11,330 government if you're you've got a 3294 02:17:17,621 --> 02:17:13,790 government contract like Nolan has or 3295 02:17:19,030 --> 02:17:17,631 get green or put off if you release 3296 02:17:20,560 --> 02:17:19,040 classified material they pull your 3297 02:17:21,970 --> 02:17:20,570 clearance and you're out of business I 3298 02:17:23,590 --> 02:17:21,980 mean that's game over if you don't have 3299 02:17:26,081 --> 02:17:23,600 a security clearance so they're never 3300 02:17:28,300 --> 02:17:26,091 gonna walk across that security line so 3301 02:17:30,700 --> 02:17:28,310 they know you can talk about this this 3302 02:17:32,230 --> 02:17:30,710 easy material this kind of stuff you're 3303 02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:32,240 allowed to talk about it but you don't 3304 02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:35,570 go to this so that's why when when he'll 3305 02:17:38,530 --> 02:17:37,010 put off to this interview with George 3306 02:17:39,910 --> 02:17:38,540 Knapp I was kind of surprised when when 3307 02:17:42,190 --> 02:17:39,920 he actually confirmed there was a crash 3308 02:17:43,600 --> 02:17:42,200 sauce there was a document that is out 3309 02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:43,610 there that's legitimate and the other 3310 02:17:48,160 --> 02:17:45,200 thing that he said that really surprised 3311 02:17:50,260 --> 02:17:48,170 me if he does have security clearance is 3312 02:17:51,280 --> 02:17:50,270 he said he was asked about the Russians 3313 02:17:53,170 --> 02:17:51,290 and Chinese because that's the big 3314 02:17:55,210 --> 02:17:53,180 height it's this threat thing you know 3315 02:17:58,720 --> 02:17:55,220 because if unless you say this is a 3316 02:18:00,760 --> 02:17:58,730 threat unless you play that game you're 3317 02:18:02,350 --> 02:18:00,770 not gonna get any money who cares you 3318 02:18:03,550 --> 02:18:02,360 know about aliens or whatever 3319 02:18:04,690 --> 02:18:03,560 the only way you're gonna get any money 3320 02:18:05,950 --> 02:18:04,700 the only people have money is the 3321 02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:05,960 Defense Department's you guys say it's a 3322 02:18:09,850 --> 02:18:07,760 threat so what you're doing is you're 3323 02:18:11,650 --> 02:18:09,860 playing this game of we got to get it 3324 02:18:13,930 --> 02:18:11,660 before the Russians and he'll actually 3325 02:18:15,490 --> 02:18:13,940 admit it on this interview he was asked 3326 02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:15,500 about the Russians and he said yes I 3327 02:18:22,870 --> 02:18:19,450 know that I've seen detailed classified 3328 02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:22,880 reports on the Russian program and that 3329 02:18:26,440 --> 02:18:24,770 was a revelation I mean that he'll put 3330 02:18:28,150 --> 02:18:26,450 off would say that I mean that's pretty 3331 02:18:30,190 --> 02:18:28,160 out there that there are actually 3332 02:18:32,260 --> 02:18:30,200 documents that detail the Russian 3333 02:18:33,550 --> 02:18:32,270 program which would again indicate that 3334 02:18:35,620 --> 02:18:33,560 we have a program no matter what they 3335 02:18:38,020 --> 02:18:35,630 say this is the only program and this is 3336 02:18:39,250 --> 02:18:38,030 you know just the only 10 years we've 3337 02:18:40,450 --> 02:18:39,260 been working on this and we have didn't 3338 02:18:42,430 --> 02:18:40,460 do anything this is absolutely nonsense 3339 02:18:44,140 --> 02:18:42,440 that that the government would not work 3340 02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:44,150 on this we it has to be highly 3341 02:18:46,660 --> 02:18:44,719 classified 3342 02:18:49,660 --> 02:18:46,670 especially the nuclear weapon thing to 3343 02:18:51,850 --> 02:18:49,670 say we aren't interested in a system 3344 02:18:54,010 --> 02:18:51,860 that could shut down all nuclear weapons 3345 02:18:54,940 --> 02:18:54,020 is absolutely insanity I mean no we 3346 02:18:56,530 --> 02:18:54,950 wouldn't want to know how to shut down 3347 02:18:57,940 --> 02:18:56,540 Russian nuclear missiles no we would 3348 02:18:59,110 --> 02:18:57,950 know I know that having sex I mean 3349 02:19:00,520 --> 02:18:59,120 they're of course they're working on 3350 02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:00,530 this of course they've got it and it's 3351 02:19:04,360 --> 02:19:02,240 it comes down to this thing about levels 3352 02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:04,370 of security that you can talk about 3353 02:19:07,629 --> 02:19:06,410 certain things and that's where they're 3354 02:19:09,010 --> 02:19:07,639 going they're they're starting at the 3355 02:19:12,820 --> 02:19:09,020 bottom and they're gonna work their way 3356 02:19:15,400 --> 02:19:12,830 up as this thing develops but what they 3357 02:19:18,339 --> 02:19:15,410 know all these different guys they based 3358 02:19:20,169 --> 02:19:18,349 upon their experience with no little 3359 02:19:21,790 --> 02:19:20,179 bits and pieces I would say the main 3360 02:19:23,470 --> 02:19:21,800 motivating factor for the people that I 3361 02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:23,480 know is the fact that they are 3362 02:19:27,160 --> 02:19:25,010 experiences they've had the beings in 3363 02:19:29,110 --> 02:19:27,170 their room and they've gotten downloads 3364 02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:29,120 and they they know that that this 3365 02:19:33,129 --> 02:19:31,010 thing's for real and that sort of drives 3366 02:19:35,860 --> 02:19:33,139 a lot of the people that I know in in 3367 02:19:37,540 --> 02:19:35,870 the to the stars thing even Tom DeLonge 3368 02:19:39,640 --> 02:19:37,550 talks about this experience he had 3369 02:19:42,220 --> 02:19:39,650 outside area 51 and you know what it's 3370 02:19:44,770 --> 02:19:42,230 like once you have an experience it's 3371 02:19:46,540 --> 02:19:44,780 pretty hard to to to let go of the thing 3372 02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:46,550 people will say oh this guy quit the UFO 3373 02:19:49,810 --> 02:19:48,050 community was always the joke is like oh 3374 02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:49,820 don't worry he'll be back you know it's 3375 02:19:53,710 --> 02:19:51,290 like you can't leave I mean once you've 3376 02:19:55,180 --> 02:19:53,720 had an experience it drags you in almost 3377 02:19:56,920 --> 02:19:55,190 like that's part of the thing that the 3378 02:19:58,570 --> 02:19:56,930 aliens because that's people got to 3379 02:20:01,150 --> 02:19:58,580 realize the aliens are doing the same 3380 02:20:02,350 --> 02:20:01,160 thing the aliens are not disclosing if 3381 02:20:03,340 --> 02:20:02,360 they want to disclose that land on the 3382 02:20:05,080 --> 02:20:03,350 White House lawn and tell us what's 3383 02:20:06,580 --> 02:20:05,090 going on and they're not covering up 3384 02:20:08,650 --> 02:20:06,590 because they want to cover up they turn 3385 02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:08,660 the lights off why do you all foes have 3386 02:20:11,860 --> 02:20:10,010 lights on them they have lights on them 3387 02:20:13,570 --> 02:20:11,870 so you can see them they want you to see 3388 02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:13,580 them if they abduct people you don't see 3389 02:20:16,120 --> 02:20:15,110 them when they want to be seen they're 3390 02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:16,130 seen so 3391 02:20:20,380 --> 02:20:18,110 playing the game and there and so all 3392 02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:20,390 this may be actually part of an alien 3393 02:20:23,679 --> 02:20:22,010 thing where the aliens are actually 3394 02:20:27,190 --> 02:20:23,689 releasing this and that's what this 3395 02:20:29,980 --> 02:20:27,200 study shows that this 90 day eyes only 3396 02:20:31,929 --> 02:20:29,990 study shows that we really don't know as 3397 02:20:34,870 --> 02:20:31,939 much as people are playing that we know 3398 02:20:36,490 --> 02:20:34,880 that that even like you've looked at Jim 3399 02:20:37,690 --> 02:20:36,500 semi van where he talks about the 3400 02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:37,700 scientific method that we're gonna 3401 02:20:41,830 --> 02:20:40,370 analyze this thing oh we're gonna we're 3402 02:20:43,300 --> 02:20:41,840 gonna figure this out he said the idea 3403 02:20:45,370 --> 02:20:43,310 that you can measure this thing is 3404 02:20:46,990 --> 02:20:45,380 laughable how do you define something 3405 02:20:49,420 --> 02:20:47,000 where there does not appear to be any 3406 02:20:51,460 --> 02:20:49,430 there there this has got to do with 3407 02:20:53,740 --> 02:20:51,470 consciousness and multidimensionality 3408 02:20:56,020 --> 02:20:53,750 that is beyond our present science and 3409 02:20:58,750 --> 02:20:56,030 it starts to set up this this scenario 3410 02:21:00,429 --> 02:20:58,760 that maybe this thing is controlling the 3411 02:21:02,110 --> 02:21:00,439 whole thing that in fact semi van told 3412 02:21:04,110 --> 02:21:02,120 that to somebody he was asked who's 3413 02:21:06,340 --> 02:21:04,120 running the show and he said they are 3414 02:21:08,380 --> 02:21:06,350 basically like we really don't have any 3415 02:21:10,330 --> 02:21:08,390 control over this this sort of thing and 3416 02:21:11,860 --> 02:21:10,340 they are sort of dealing out the cards 3417 02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:11,870 and they're letting us see like almost 3418 02:21:15,610 --> 02:21:13,850 like this metal they extrude this metal 3419 02:21:17,139 --> 02:21:15,620 out these crafts maybe they're actually 3420 02:21:18,670 --> 02:21:17,149 crashing on purpose maybe they're 3421 02:21:20,650 --> 02:21:18,680 actually giving out these metal they're 3422 02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:20,660 leaving us little breadcrumbs to follow 3423 02:21:24,670 --> 02:21:22,610 and that they've done this on a thousand 3424 02:21:26,560 --> 02:21:24,680 planets before they know exactly how to 3425 02:21:28,360 --> 02:21:26,570 unravel this thing slowly but they're 3426 02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:28,370 doing the same thing they're not doing 3427 02:21:32,740 --> 02:21:29,930 it fast they're doing the little drip 3428 02:21:35,260 --> 02:21:32,750 drip drip there's little clues do this 3429 02:21:36,760 --> 02:21:35,270 do that sabotage the witness they'll 3430 02:21:37,900 --> 02:21:36,770 telling a witness something and then 3431 02:21:39,400 --> 02:21:37,910 they'll tell him something that's wrong 3432 02:21:41,410 --> 02:21:39,410 and the guy looks like he's a fool 3433 02:21:43,389 --> 02:21:41,420 because he you know did the prediction 3434 02:21:44,830 --> 02:21:43,399 didn't turn out it's their play it's 3435 02:21:47,110 --> 02:21:44,840 almost the same game the government's 3436 02:21:48,639 --> 02:21:47,120 playing almost like the government has 3437 02:21:52,030 --> 02:21:48,649 watched what the aliens are doing and 3438 02:21:56,469 --> 02:21:52,040 are doing exactly the same thing and my 3439 02:22:00,340 --> 02:21:56,479 question is why you know if if that is 3440 02:22:03,219 --> 02:22:00,350 what you know we then say that that is 3441 02:22:06,130 --> 02:22:03,229 what is going on I don't need you have 3442 02:22:08,290 --> 02:22:06,140 Charlie Red Star right I have my 3443 02:22:10,210 --> 02:22:08,300 sightings that I have had with hundreds 3444 02:22:13,150 --> 02:22:10,220 of witnesses standing next to me 3445 02:22:15,940 --> 02:22:13,160 videotape I've got it all to back I 3446 02:22:17,530 --> 02:22:15,950 don't need I don't need Tom DeLonge I 3447 02:22:20,590 --> 02:22:17,540 don't need the Pentagon I don't need 3448 02:22:23,469 --> 02:22:20,600 Trump I don't need anybody to tell me 3449 02:22:27,960 --> 02:22:23,479 that aliens are here because I know that 3450 02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:27,970 they are so why have this back-and-forth 3451 02:22:31,160 --> 02:22:29,610 disinfo thing 3452 02:22:34,881 --> 02:22:31,170 you were just saying right take down a 3453 02:22:37,490 --> 02:22:34,891 witness and embarrass him but but elude 3454 02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:37,500 that this is real elude that this is 3455 02:22:41,990 --> 02:22:39,210 consciousness and it's beyond our 3456 02:22:44,930 --> 02:22:42,000 scientific and why not just come clean I 3457 02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:44,940 don't think the planet really cares one 3458 02:22:49,970 --> 02:22:47,130 way or another they're not gonna go into 3459 02:22:52,970 --> 02:22:49,980 shock you know just come clean who cares 3460 02:22:54,921 --> 02:22:52,980 I mean well I mean why do you listen to 3461 02:22:56,301 --> 02:22:54,931 put off her he listened to Elizondo they 3462 02:22:58,341 --> 02:22:56,311 both talked about this thing Alessandra 3463 02:22:59,810 --> 02:22:58,351 was threatened I mean this is what 3464 02:23:02,511 --> 02:22:59,820 people don't realize with the with the 3465 02:23:04,940 --> 02:23:02,521 remote viewing program and this was told 3466 02:23:06,921 --> 02:23:04,950 to me by dr. Scott Jones who was very 3467 02:23:08,870 --> 02:23:06,931 close to the what was going on when it 3468 02:23:10,791 --> 02:23:08,880 was shut down said the main reasons I 3469 02:23:13,551 --> 02:23:10,801 shut down is because there are very 3470 02:23:15,081 --> 02:23:13,561 high-level people in the CIA who believe 3471 02:23:17,660 --> 02:23:15,091 this is demonic and it's the same thing 3472 02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:17,670 he'll put off for mentions as fact that 3473 02:23:22,910 --> 02:23:20,730 there are people inside the the Pentagon 3474 02:23:24,381 --> 02:23:22,920 there is a there's a war going on you 3475 02:23:27,831 --> 02:23:24,391 are not going to release this because 3476 02:23:30,381 --> 02:23:27,841 this is demonic these UFO things that we 3477 02:23:31,581 --> 02:23:30,391 we we think that everybody's going to go 3478 02:23:33,591 --> 02:23:31,591 along and that's where this this 3479 02:23:35,120 --> 02:23:33,601 climatization thing is they don't care 3480 02:23:36,171 --> 02:23:35,130 about you and I they know that you and I 3481 02:23:38,570 --> 02:23:36,181 believe they're not they're not here 3482 02:23:40,910 --> 02:23:38,580 just to solve our problems or to you 3483 02:23:46,041 --> 02:23:40,920 know crew with us they're trying to get 3484 02:23:47,870 --> 02:23:46,051 that very edge that doesn't really 3485 02:23:49,640 --> 02:23:47,880 believe it or that that maybe have a 3486 02:23:52,370 --> 02:23:49,650 religious thing and they're trying to do 3487 02:23:54,171 --> 02:23:52,380 it subconsciously almost like a movie 3488 02:23:55,490 --> 02:23:54,181 where you're like like if you're a CIA 3489 02:23:57,680 --> 02:23:55,500 agent you want to tell your story you 3490 02:23:59,690 --> 02:23:57,690 put it into a movie and you sort of you 3491 02:24:02,001 --> 02:23:59,700 you put messages through Hollywood and 3492 02:24:04,160 --> 02:24:02,011 that's the main reason even if you take 3493 02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:04,170 chase Brandon the guy that you know that 3494 02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:05,490 came out said Roswell was real is 3495 02:24:08,841 --> 02:24:07,200 extraterrestrial and there were bodies 3496 02:24:10,820 --> 02:24:08,851 and he walks back in the shadows and 3497 02:24:12,801 --> 02:24:10,830 nobody even chases the guy I mean where 3498 02:24:14,631 --> 02:24:12,811 is where is chase Brandon right now he 3499 02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:14,641 was the liaison to Hollywood for ten 3500 02:24:19,220 --> 02:24:17,040 years influencing movies oh you're doing 3501 02:24:21,081 --> 02:24:19,230 a CIA movie oh cool we'd like to come to 3502 02:24:22,820 --> 02:24:21,091 CIA we'd like to help you out and of 3503 02:24:24,381 --> 02:24:22,830 course they want to manage the movie so 3504 02:24:26,180 --> 02:24:24,391 you can either kill everybody on the set 3505 02:24:28,131 --> 02:24:26,190 or you manage the movie and you move 3506 02:24:30,020 --> 02:24:28,141 them worse chase Brandon no he's still 3507 02:24:31,791 --> 02:24:30,030 in Hollywood he's a consultant in 3508 02:24:34,370 --> 02:24:31,801 Hollywood now he's gone from the white 3509 02:24:35,900 --> 02:24:34,380 world CIA to the black world CA so 3510 02:24:37,730 --> 02:24:35,910 you're dropping this stuff into movies 3511 02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:37,740 and you're doing it gradually because 3512 02:24:42,270 --> 02:24:40,170 you you have this element inside the US 3513 02:24:44,430 --> 02:24:42,280 government or in 3514 02:24:46,230 --> 02:24:44,440 religious communities who don't want any 3515 02:24:48,060 --> 02:24:46,240 part of this and you're trying so you're 3516 02:24:49,890 --> 02:24:48,070 trying to move it's almost like the 3517 02:24:52,501 --> 02:24:49,900 election if you're running the election 3518 02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:52,511 you don't care about the Democrats who 3519 02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:53,920 cares you don't care about the 3520 02:24:57,870 --> 02:24:56,080 Republicans you don't put ads to them 3521 02:24:59,251 --> 02:24:57,880 you go to the swing boaters you're 3522 02:25:01,290 --> 02:24:59,261 trying to find out the people that you 3523 02:25:02,730 --> 02:25:01,300 can move and you're slowly moving over 3524 02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:02,740 the swing voters I think it's the same 3525 02:25:08,700 --> 02:25:06,370 sort of issue it's not like you know 3526 02:25:10,381 --> 02:25:08,710 that that it's that they're good they're 3527 02:25:12,751 --> 02:25:10,391 gonna because you know with the same as 3528 02:25:14,490 --> 02:25:12,761 I that if you put an idea in the UFO 3529 02:25:16,950 --> 02:25:14,500 community you're not gonna convince 3530 02:25:18,421 --> 02:25:16,960 anybody everybody has their idea set as 3531 02:25:19,770 --> 02:25:18,431 to what's going on and it's the same 3532 02:25:22,980 --> 02:25:19,780 thing in in the public you have to 3533 02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:22,990 gradually move people across to the idea 3534 02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:25,090 that this thing's for real and then you 3535 02:25:29,100 --> 02:25:26,650 can move to the next step that you can't 3536 02:25:30,631 --> 02:25:29,110 that's in the Brookings Institute report 3537 02:25:32,190 --> 02:25:30,641 and and Bigelow I think hinted that 3538 02:25:33,810 --> 02:25:32,200 there was other reports it was not just 3539 02:25:36,270 --> 02:25:33,820 the Brookings Institute report there 3540 02:25:39,690 --> 02:25:36,280 were other reports that said if you drop 3541 02:25:42,091 --> 02:25:39,700 this thing the lower society disappears 3542 02:25:44,280 --> 02:25:42,101 and so they would look at these reports 3543 02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:44,290 and say you know we don't want to take a 3544 02:25:49,591 --> 02:25:46,330 chance I mean as built as Steven Greer 3545 02:25:50,671 --> 02:25:49,601 says politicians are gutless wonders 3546 02:25:52,591 --> 02:25:50,681 they're not going to do anything unless 3547 02:25:54,240 --> 02:25:52,601 they absolutely know for sure that it's 3548 02:25:56,461 --> 02:25:54,250 going to work out it's like kick it down 3549 02:25:57,810 --> 02:25:56,471 the road I mean or kit Green says what 3550 02:25:59,341 --> 02:25:57,820 would you do if you had to run the thing 3551 02:26:01,680 --> 02:25:59,351 I mean would you just stand up and and 3552 02:26:03,270 --> 02:26:01,690 take the chance that that you know you 3553 02:26:05,450 --> 02:26:03,280 spill the milk and and it's all going to 3554 02:26:07,950 --> 02:26:05,460 go south are you gonna say well you know 3555 02:26:10,110 --> 02:26:07,960 drop a couple of stories let's drill in 3556 02:26:11,850 --> 02:26:10,120 another oil well and let's let's drag it 3557 02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:11,860 on because the military's going to come 3558 02:26:15,870 --> 02:26:13,450 to you and say well mr. president the 3559 02:26:17,761 --> 02:26:15,880 longer you leave this thing go the 3560 02:26:19,350 --> 02:26:17,771 better chance that we're going to be 3561 02:26:21,270 --> 02:26:19,360 able to fight this thing if it's evil 3562 02:26:23,341 --> 02:26:21,280 and the other thing is if you drop it 3563 02:26:24,961 --> 02:26:23,351 and you confirm to the Russians where 3564 02:26:27,930 --> 02:26:24,971 we're doing the research and the Chinese 3565 02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:27,940 you may give the Chinese may have 80% of 3566 02:26:32,551 --> 02:26:29,530 the story and you get the Chinese the 3567 02:26:35,251 --> 02:26:32,561 20% they they need and you don't have 3568 02:26:37,261 --> 02:26:35,261 the the whole story then suddenly the 3569 02:26:39,421 --> 02:26:37,271 Chinese run the whole show and it's been 3570 02:26:42,211 --> 02:26:39,431 generous I don't think anybody denies 3571 02:26:45,091 --> 02:26:42,221 whoever gets this technology rules the 3572 02:26:48,780 --> 02:26:45,101 world well and well you know what we 3573 02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:48,790 could continue on forever I just love it 3574 02:26:52,921 --> 02:26:51,130 when you come on the show grant thank 3575 02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:52,931 you so much for the conversation and 3576 02:26:59,580 --> 02:26:55,570 have a safe trip down here to Lausanne 3577 02:27:02,580 --> 02:26:59,590 Angeles and really excited for LA to go 3578 02:27:03,980 --> 02:27:02,590 out and and hear you and and hang out 3579 02:27:07,110 --> 02:27:03,990 with you for a couple of nights here 3580 02:27:10,051 --> 02:27:07,120 just again thank you for all that you do 3581 02:27:11,910 --> 02:27:10,061 grant and as soon as the smoke clears 3582 02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:11,920 over the next couple of weeks we'll get 3583 02:27:16,110 --> 02:27:14,080 you back on fade to black there's always 3584 02:27:19,680 --> 02:27:16,120 much more to talk about and we got to 3585 02:27:21,751 --> 02:27:19,690 talk about that book okay so yeah you're 3586 02:27:23,730 --> 02:27:21,761 a music guy we'll do music yeah exactly 3587 02:27:26,761 --> 02:27:23,740 I'll reread my book so I know what's 3588 02:27:29,400 --> 02:27:26,771 going on I'll reread it - thank you so 3589 02:27:31,140 --> 02:27:29,410 much grant be safe happy well now listen 3590 02:27:33,660 --> 02:27:31,150 I've got to talk to you tomorrow so pick 3591 02:27:35,761 --> 02:27:33,670 up the phone when I call okay okay okay 3592 02:27:38,791 --> 02:27:35,771 I'll talk to you thank you granny okay 3593 02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:38,801 grant Cameron what a great conversation 3594 02:27:45,091 --> 02:27:42,880 tonight and and like I said he centers 3595 02:27:48,001 --> 02:27:45,101 me that's exactly what he does he does 3596 02:27:50,610 --> 02:27:48,011 it every time that he's on and always 3597 02:27:52,860 --> 02:27:50,620 pushing pushing the envelope and the 3598 02:27:54,690 --> 02:27:52,870 thing is with Grant has with every guest 3599 02:27:57,780 --> 02:27:54,700 that we have on the show he's absolutely 3600 02:28:00,030 --> 02:27:57,790 right listen to everybody listen to 3601 02:28:04,140 --> 02:28:00,040 everybody and if there's ever a reason 3602 02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:04,150 to be skeptical grant tells you put on 3603 02:28:08,490 --> 02:28:06,610 those skeptical glasses you just got to 3604 02:28:10,140 --> 02:28:08,500 do it that way all right I'm gonna take 3605 02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:10,150 a break right here when I come back I'm 3606 02:28:13,801 --> 02:28:11,490 going to open up the phone lines 3607 02:28:17,220 --> 02:28:13,811 fantastic conversation with Grant number 3608 02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:17,230 one number two I'm stellar is live did 3609 02:28:22,171 --> 02:28:20,290 you get your screen name that you wanted 3610 02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:22,181 I'm watching everybody's post right here 3611 02:28:27,900 --> 02:28:25,210 on stellar dot-com go and get your 3612 02:28:30,810 --> 02:28:27,910 screen name register use the promo code 3613 02:28:31,980 --> 02:28:30,820 Jimmy and I want to thank Grant Cameron 3614 02:28:35,881 --> 02:28:31,990 for coming in I'm going to open up the 3615 02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:35,891 phone lines 3 2 3 8 2 5 5 0 4 5 or 3 2 3 3616 02:28:46,080 --> 02:28:42,160 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 big night tonight not only 3617 02:28:48,900 --> 02:28:46,090 with Grant but on stellar com is live on 3618 02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:48,910 stellar com promo coach Jimmy going get 3619 02:28:52,730 --> 02:28:50,650 yourself your screen name I'll be right 3620 02:29:12,781 --> 02:28:52,740 back 3621 02:29:15,461 --> 02:29:12,791 [Music] 3622 02:29:18,281 --> 02:29:15,471 Viveca box here and you are listening to 3623 02:29:23,730 --> 02:29:18,291 my boy Jimmy Church on Jimmy Church 3624 02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:23,740 radio.com this my popular opinion 3625 02:29:32,460 --> 02:29:27,930 reading a book will not make you smarter 3626 02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:32,470 but listening to Jimmy Church will so 3627 02:29:37,230 --> 02:29:34,090 you went to dinner last night you had 3628 02:29:40,590 --> 02:29:37,240 your favorite pasta or maybe you had a 3629 02:29:43,290 --> 02:29:40,600 heavy spicy 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--> 02:33:07,390 [Music] 3700 02:33:07,400 --> 02:33:11,461 [Applause] 3701 02:33:14,860 --> 02:33:13,541 all right welcome back fade to black 3702 02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:14,870 have meals Jimmy Church hello to 3703 02:33:20,411 --> 02:33:16,730 everybody out there on YouTube tonight 3704 02:33:23,551 --> 02:33:20,421 very special night at Grant Cameron in 3705 02:33:27,551 --> 02:33:23,561 here giving his insight and his take on 3706 02:33:30,791 --> 02:33:27,561 the Tom DeLonge recent release of this a 3707 02:33:34,060 --> 02:33:30,801 third video and very interesting and 3708 02:33:35,530 --> 02:33:34,070 grant is is on top of his game and I've 3709 02:33:37,030 --> 02:33:35,540 opened up the phone lines three two 3710 02:33:38,711 --> 02:33:37,040 three eight two five five zero four five 3711 02:33:41,081 --> 02:33:38,721 four three two three two seven five nine 3712 02:33:41,671 --> 02:33:41,091 six nine five if you're on hold stay 3713 02:33:45,310 --> 02:33:41,681 right there 3714 02:33:50,230 --> 02:33:45,320 also on stellar is live you can go now 3715 02:33:52,270 --> 02:33:50,240 on stellar dot-com and register and use 3716 02:33:55,690 --> 02:33:52,280 the promo code Jimmy when he dude it's 3717 02:33:58,091 --> 02:33:55,700 very simple and it's there and you can 3718 02:34:01,121 --> 02:33:58,101 go and read the white paper and look at 3719 02:34:04,001 --> 02:34:01,131 this exciting and you can look at some 3720 02:34:07,470 --> 02:34:04,011 of the screenshots of the interface this 3721 02:34:10,511 --> 02:34:07,480 exciting new social media platform that 3722 02:34:13,511 --> 02:34:10,521 takes the elements of all social media 3723 02:34:15,820 --> 02:34:13,521 puts it in one package so everything 3724 02:34:19,360 --> 02:34:15,830 that you're used to out there is there 3725 02:34:23,381 --> 02:34:19,370 it's a it's going to be a platform and 3726 02:34:25,091 --> 02:34:23,391 built around our community and it's 3727 02:34:27,301 --> 02:34:25,101 built on the blockchain that's the other 3728 02:34:30,131 --> 02:34:27,311 thing we're gonna have a token community 3729 02:34:32,770 --> 02:34:30,141 and the rewards are going to be there 3730 02:34:36,041 --> 02:34:32,780 it's part of the future then this is the 3731 02:34:38,470 --> 02:34:36,051 first social media platform that not 3732 02:34:42,400 --> 02:34:38,480 only is for our community like this it's 3733 02:34:45,850 --> 02:34:42,410 big it's exciting but it's it's also the 3734 02:34:47,110 --> 02:34:45,860 future built on blockchain so go and and 3735 02:34:49,990 --> 02:34:47,120 register now 3736 02:34:54,690 --> 02:34:50,000 and you will be notified you've got the 3737 02:34:58,440 --> 02:34:54,700 countdown clock to everything as well as 3738 02:35:01,871 --> 02:34:58,450 for me which is really exciting is that 3739 02:35:04,961 --> 02:35:01,881 the members of our community that are 3740 02:35:08,800 --> 02:35:04,971 already involved are going to be listed 3741 02:35:11,139 --> 02:35:08,810 I don't know if they're up there yet but 3742 02:35:13,750 --> 02:35:11,149 when you see who was involved in who is 3743 02:35:17,590 --> 02:35:13,760 behind this it's just God you are gonna 3744 02:35:19,090 --> 02:35:17,600 just be so happy it is so exciting okay 3745 02:35:22,120 --> 02:35:19,100 with that let's go to the phones hi your 3746 02:35:25,260 --> 02:35:22,130 life I'm paid to black who's calling hi 3747 02:35:28,150 --> 02:35:25,270 Jimmy its Marilyn hi Marilyn how are you 3748 02:35:32,710 --> 02:35:28,160 I'm doing good how are you did you get 3749 02:35:37,380 --> 02:35:32,720 registered no not yet 3750 02:35:39,550 --> 02:35:37,390 what go ahead register I'm still at work 3751 02:35:43,719 --> 02:35:39,560 alright alright what's on your mind 3752 02:35:46,900 --> 02:35:43,729 tonight um well first thing I want to 3753 02:35:49,780 --> 02:35:46,910 say you always bring amazing guests on 3754 02:35:53,050 --> 02:35:49,790 your show thank you for that yes they 3755 02:35:56,559 --> 02:35:53,060 come in the second thing I want to talk 3756 02:36:00,429 --> 02:35:56,569 about something that grant was saying 3757 02:36:01,210 --> 02:36:00,439 ever invited me recently I had asked my 3758 02:36:07,090 --> 02:36:01,220 supervisor 3759 02:36:09,280 --> 02:36:07,100 and he was like a big pop knotch I don't 3760 02:36:13,960 --> 02:36:09,290 know whatever I don't know how that 3761 02:36:17,679 --> 02:36:13,970 works out right I asked him if he's ever 3762 02:36:21,040 --> 02:36:17,689 been to area 51 and you know he said I 3763 02:36:23,380 --> 02:36:21,050 wanted to go he's like but I couldn't 3764 02:36:26,139 --> 02:36:23,390 because you have to be in some type of 3765 02:36:29,710 --> 02:36:26,149 program in order to do that and he's 3766 02:36:33,280 --> 02:36:29,720 like and it doesn't matter how high you 3767 02:36:35,500 --> 02:36:33,290 rank in the military like you just have 3768 02:36:37,950 --> 02:36:35,510 to be in a program and I was like what 3769 02:36:42,639 --> 02:36:37,960 do you mean he's like well they make 3770 02:36:44,860 --> 02:36:42,649 aircraft that I don't know I guess is it 3771 02:36:50,950 --> 02:36:44,870 shown to the public I don't know it's 3772 02:36:54,340 --> 02:36:50,960 weird and he said that back in the 90s 3773 02:36:58,389 --> 02:36:54,350 that supposedly they were working on an 3774 02:36:58,960 --> 02:36:58,399 aircraft the f-117 I believe that's what 3775 02:37:05,139 --> 02:36:58,970 he said 3776 02:37:07,750 --> 02:37:05,149 at night and it was that it had like 3777 02:37:09,969 --> 02:37:07,760 this triangular sheet form and he said 3778 02:37:13,210 --> 02:37:09,979 people would mistaken that for a UFO 3779 02:37:17,410 --> 02:37:13,220 crash mm-hmm yeah I'm sure they were I'm 3780 02:37:18,250 --> 02:37:17,420 sure they were the and especially back 3781 02:37:23,500 --> 02:37:18,260 then 3782 02:37:25,389 --> 02:37:23,510 when the f-117 the Nighthawk when it was 3783 02:37:27,309 --> 02:37:25,399 being tested first off it didn't even 3784 02:37:30,389 --> 02:37:27,319 look like a plane right it's it's a 3785 02:37:33,670 --> 02:37:30,399 black yeah it's a black diamond shaped 3786 02:37:35,469 --> 02:37:33,680 aircraft and testing that at night if 3787 02:37:37,570 --> 02:37:35,479 you happen to catch it because it's 3788 02:37:40,840 --> 02:37:37,580 black it would have been hard to see at 3789 02:37:44,219 --> 02:37:40,850 night but and if you did catch it you 3790 02:37:46,929 --> 02:37:44,229 would think it was pretty strange but 3791 02:37:49,269 --> 02:37:46,939 and I'm sure that there were a lot of 3792 02:37:51,269 --> 02:37:49,279 sightings around area 51 and also the 3793 02:37:54,400 --> 02:37:51,279 Mojave Desert out here in California 3794 02:37:57,070 --> 02:37:54,410 during that time where it could have 3795 02:38:00,190 --> 02:37:57,080 been confused as that also the b-2 3796 02:38:03,610 --> 02:38:00,200 stealth bomber same situation unique 3797 02:38:05,469 --> 02:38:03,620 shape and seeing that in in the sky 3798 02:38:08,889 --> 02:38:05,479 would definitely freak some people out 3799 02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:08,899 daytime or or at night because it would 3800 02:38:13,769 --> 02:38:10,010 be hard to see at night 3801 02:38:19,780 --> 02:38:13,779 so I agree I hear you on that point but 3802 02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:19,790 I I want to stay positive when it comes 3803 02:38:26,500 --> 02:38:22,640 to to the Stars Academy I do I really 3804 02:38:30,250 --> 02:38:26,510 want some movement to happen here for us 3805 02:38:31,990 --> 02:38:30,260 I don't care about me Marilyn I care 3806 02:38:35,830 --> 02:38:32,000 about the community I care about the 3807 02:38:39,760 --> 02:38:35,840 world and we I don't care who you are 3808 02:38:43,780 --> 02:38:39,770 what religion if you believe in UFOs or 3809 02:38:45,160 --> 02:38:43,790 not that are visiting this planet we all 3810 02:38:47,679 --> 02:38:45,170 want to know if we're alone in this 3811 02:38:50,710 --> 02:38:47,689 universe you know and that's a that's an 3812 02:38:54,040 --> 02:38:50,720 important question and and I I think 3813 02:38:57,130 --> 02:38:54,050 that I know that our government knows 3814 02:39:00,370 --> 02:38:57,140 the answer to this question you know I 3815 02:39:03,280 --> 02:39:00,380 don't need I don't need it I'm speaking 3816 02:39:07,090 --> 02:39:03,290 about everybody else on this planet 3817 02:39:11,160 --> 02:39:07,100 ever since if you go back let I mean 3818 02:39:14,440 --> 02:39:11,170 seriously let's go back 10,000 years and 3819 02:39:17,500 --> 02:39:14,450 cro-magnon Neanderthal a homo sapien 3820 02:39:19,450 --> 02:39:17,510 sapien walking around digging for seeds 3821 02:39:21,130 --> 02:39:19,460 trying to feed your family do this and 3822 02:39:25,120 --> 02:39:21,140 at night you look up and you're looking 3823 02:39:27,160 --> 02:39:25,130 at the Stars and you don't understand 3824 02:39:28,389 --> 02:39:27,170 aliens or whatever you don't but you 3825 02:39:30,280 --> 02:39:28,399 know what you're looking out there going 3826 02:39:32,470 --> 02:39:30,290 wow that's kind of cool 3827 02:39:35,230 --> 02:39:32,480 I wonder what's out there you know and 3828 02:39:38,950 --> 02:39:35,240 that that question has been here since 3829 02:39:42,310 --> 02:39:38,960 the very beginning of mankind so you 3830 02:39:45,011 --> 02:39:42,320 know what quit quit putzing around you 3831 02:39:48,040 --> 02:39:45,021 know the truth right you know the truth 3832 02:39:50,140 --> 02:39:48,050 so out with it already we're not gonna 3833 02:39:53,320 --> 02:39:50,150 freak out we've been asking us the 3834 02:39:55,960 --> 02:39:53,330 ourselves this question forever so 3835 02:39:58,150 --> 02:39:55,970 that's my take you know and and that's 3836 02:40:00,340 --> 02:39:58,160 it it's for the community I don't need 3837 02:40:03,310 --> 02:40:00,350 the answer I don't need to hear it but 3838 02:40:05,230 --> 02:40:03,320 everybody else does so that's my take 3839 02:40:09,670 --> 02:40:05,240 and I'm gonna stick I'm gonna stick to 3840 02:40:11,880 --> 02:40:09,680 it yeah I mean I was just curious and 3841 02:40:14,740 --> 02:40:11,890 see if he'd say something like 3842 02:40:18,670 --> 02:40:14,750 interesting you know like conspiracy or 3843 02:40:21,880 --> 02:40:18,680 whatever but you know but I mean I I do 3844 02:40:22,450 --> 02:40:21,890 take that week we are not alone in this 3845 02:40:25,480 --> 02:40:22,460 universe 3846 02:40:27,160 --> 02:40:25,490 well this is what I this is what I want 3847 02:40:30,070 --> 02:40:27,170 you to do I'm gonna get to some other 3848 02:40:32,380 --> 02:40:30,080 calls but get registered on Han stellar 3849 02:40:34,660 --> 02:40:32,390 okay so you can go and get your screen 3850 02:40:36,790 --> 02:40:34,670 name and get it get it all set up all 3851 02:40:39,790 --> 02:40:36,800 right and tell your boss to do it too 3852 02:40:41,680 --> 02:40:39,800 use the promo code Jimmy don't forget 3853 02:40:43,540 --> 02:40:41,690 use the promo code Jimmy Thank You 3854 02:40:44,800 --> 02:40:43,550 Marilyn have a great safe rest of your 3855 02:40:47,890 --> 02:40:44,810 night we'll see you tomorrow night right 3856 02:40:50,350 --> 02:40:47,900 here Thank You Marilyn 3857 02:40:53,500 --> 02:40:50,360 hi you're live I'm fade to black who's 3858 02:40:56,140 --> 02:40:53,510 calling it's Eric the realtor from Los 3859 02:40:58,780 --> 02:40:56,150 Angeles oh my goodness how are you Eric 3860 02:41:01,990 --> 02:40:58,790 pretty good brother how you been I am 3861 02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:02,000 it's great to hear your voice well I 3862 02:41:07,690 --> 02:41:05,710 called in tonight because I want 3863 02:41:11,740 --> 02:41:07,700 hopefully more people to kind of 3864 02:41:15,520 --> 02:41:11,750 reinforce Cameron's point of view you 3865 02:41:16,900 --> 02:41:15,530 know just two minutes I'll tell you how 3866 02:41:20,110 --> 02:41:16,910 I feel about this and it's pretty much 3867 02:41:24,220 --> 02:41:20,120 exactly how he feels like you've got 3868 02:41:26,080 --> 02:41:24,230 DeLong and you've got Bigelow and 3869 02:41:27,940 --> 02:41:26,090 they're both rich guys who've 3870 02:41:31,300 --> 02:41:27,950 accomplished a lot who've gotten into 3871 02:41:35,110 --> 02:41:31,310 this subject and probably have 3872 02:41:37,480 --> 02:41:35,120 discovered a lot Bigelow went dark and 3873 02:41:39,400 --> 02:41:37,490 the lungs kind of tried to hit for that 3874 02:41:42,280 --> 02:41:39,410 light right he's trying to kind of fill 3875 02:41:43,989 --> 02:41:42,290 us in and the first stuff he's revealed 3876 02:41:47,819 --> 02:41:43,999 I think is kind of a 3877 02:41:52,599 --> 02:41:47,829 a big fart alright let's just say it but 3878 02:41:54,149 --> 02:41:52,609 it this this community people are such a 3879 02:41:57,789 --> 02:41:54,159 rush first of all to call themselves 3880 02:41:59,589 --> 02:41:57,799 part of the community and I think be 3881 02:42:02,889 --> 02:41:59,599 careful about that because the community 3882 02:42:06,129 --> 02:42:02,899 is full of a lot of back biters and in 3883 02:42:07,599 --> 02:42:06,139 fighters and it's it's swamp its swamp 3884 02:42:10,359 --> 02:42:07,609 and it's a lot of swamp creatures now 3885 02:42:11,739 --> 02:42:10,369 it's a lot of good people and it 3886 02:42:14,889 --> 02:42:11,749 includes you and me and a lot of other 3887 02:42:17,049 --> 02:42:14,899 people but the bottom line is he's 3888 02:42:18,549 --> 02:42:17,059 chosen to kind of just fly over to swamp 3889 02:42:21,609 --> 02:42:18,559 and I think that's smart 3890 02:42:26,009 --> 02:42:21,619 because if he can get there Jimmy and he 3891 02:42:28,179 --> 02:42:26,019 can cause other people to go there and 3892 02:42:30,669 --> 02:42:28,189 this becomes kind of more of a 3893 02:42:32,469 --> 02:42:30,679 mainstream thing which I really feel it 3894 02:42:34,209 --> 02:42:32,479 is becoming that's good 3895 02:42:36,099 --> 02:42:34,219 that's a good thing I don't think a 3896 02:42:40,179 --> 02:42:36,109 bunch of internet trolls are going to 3897 02:42:49,089 --> 02:42:40,189 reveal this trillion-dollar secret do 3898 02:42:52,239 --> 02:42:49,099 you know I'm wondering what you meant by 3899 02:42:56,399 --> 02:42:52,249 trolls because we've never seen you know 3900 02:42:59,649 --> 02:42:56,409 this guy so far we've got a party of two 3901 02:43:02,139 --> 02:42:59,659 that are non government that have spent 3902 02:43:05,649 --> 02:43:02,149 real money to kind of try and figure 3903 02:43:09,039 --> 02:43:05,659 this thing out more than an iPad and you 3904 02:43:10,809 --> 02:43:09,049 know some connectivity right and that 3905 02:43:13,929 --> 02:43:10,819 includes me I haven't I've spent 3906 02:43:16,359 --> 02:43:13,939 thousands of hours okay when I'm not 3907 02:43:18,309 --> 02:43:16,369 selling real estate or out partying I've 3908 02:43:21,249 --> 02:43:18,319 spent thousands of hours researching it 3909 02:43:24,699 --> 02:43:21,259 passively but not really gotten active 3910 02:43:28,239 --> 02:43:24,709 with my own cash like I'm not employing 3911 02:43:30,399 --> 02:43:28,249 all these people I'm not spending a 3912 02:43:32,589 --> 02:43:30,409 bunch of my own coin and retirement to 3913 02:43:35,559 --> 02:43:32,599 try to figure this thing out and I just 3914 02:43:38,529 --> 02:43:35,569 think that he realized real quick he was 3915 02:43:40,889 --> 02:43:38,539 going to be savaged once once he went 3916 02:43:43,989 --> 02:43:40,899 towards that light and I'm kind of glad 3917 02:43:46,329 --> 02:43:43,999 whatever his results are even if being 3918 02:43:49,089 --> 02:43:46,339 led down a path that he's kind of flying 3919 02:43:53,679 --> 02:43:49,099 over swamp for now and avoidance swamp 3920 02:43:55,899 --> 02:43:53,689 creatures and my whole point is that we 3921 02:43:57,820 --> 02:43:55,909 should be encouraging this and and I 3922 02:44:00,011 --> 02:43:57,830 think that there's a lot of people 3923 02:44:01,570 --> 02:44:00,021 communities that are they're trying to 3924 02:44:03,130 --> 02:44:01,580 give the guy a chance but I think 3925 02:44:05,830 --> 02:44:03,140 there's a lot of swamp creatures that 3926 02:44:07,810 --> 02:44:05,840 came out real quick and started savaging 3927 02:44:10,540 --> 02:44:07,820 the guy and and I'll admit the first 3928 02:44:11,950 --> 02:44:10,550 stuff he put out was kind of a I don't 3929 02:44:13,690 --> 02:44:11,960 want to use the real term I think but 3930 02:44:16,390 --> 02:44:13,700 you know went over like a big fart yeah 3931 02:44:18,520 --> 02:44:16,400 the bottom line is yeah I want to say 3932 02:44:20,830 --> 02:44:18,530 one more thing okay sure to say I love 3933 02:44:23,350 --> 02:44:20,840 Rita and I love you guys but the one 3934 02:44:25,690 --> 02:44:23,360 thing I want to leave you with is this 3935 02:44:28,210 --> 02:44:25,700 secret when it is revealed it's going to 3936 02:44:30,761 --> 02:44:28,220 come with free energy because what do we 3937 02:44:32,920 --> 02:44:30,771 think these space critters are flying 3938 02:44:36,640 --> 02:44:32,930 around with it's free energy and it's 3939 02:44:39,670 --> 02:44:36,650 unlimited energy do we want everybody in 3940 02:44:42,400 --> 02:44:39,680 the world to have a free unlimited 3941 02:44:44,740 --> 02:44:42,410 energy device and the ramifications that 3942 02:44:46,930 --> 02:44:44,750 could come with that yeah yeah that's 3943 02:44:52,240 --> 02:44:46,940 more interesting take discussing now 3944 02:44:55,930 --> 02:44:52,250 like do we want other countries other 3945 02:44:59,380 --> 02:44:55,940 governments other crazy people in the 3946 02:45:03,070 --> 02:44:59,390 world to have are we ready for this free 3947 02:45:05,620 --> 02:45:03,080 energy in this and this you know are we 3948 02:45:08,170 --> 02:45:05,630 ready for it really I've spent a lot of 3949 02:45:10,750 --> 02:45:08,180 time on this Jimmy and at first I wanted 3950 02:45:13,420 --> 02:45:10,760 I was Vanguard and I would like you know 3951 02:45:17,650 --> 02:45:13,430 let's tell everybody man deeper you get 3952 02:45:20,801 --> 02:45:17,660 into it I'm not so sure anymore well the 3953 02:45:26,440 --> 02:45:20,811 battle over and the wars that have been 3954 02:45:28,750 --> 02:45:26,450 fought over oil land and territory and 3955 02:45:31,450 --> 02:45:28,760 then the the wars that have been fought 3956 02:45:33,610 --> 02:45:31,460 over the money that that controls that 3957 02:45:39,880 --> 02:45:33,620 agenda and you take that off of the 3958 02:45:43,840 --> 02:45:39,890 table you know what is the wars may stop 3959 02:45:48,280 --> 02:45:43,850 in Syria and Yemen and on the borders of 3960 02:45:50,020 --> 02:45:48,290 Saudi Arabia and Iraq in Libya right but 3961 02:45:52,930 --> 02:45:50,030 I'll tell you something else that 3962 02:45:54,130 --> 02:45:52,940 happens with that right okay we may stop 3963 02:45:57,430 --> 02:45:54,140 fighting over oil 3964 02:46:00,370 --> 02:45:57,440 we may have free energy but now what 3965 02:46:03,040 --> 02:46:00,380 happens to the economies of those 3966 02:46:05,860 --> 02:46:03,050 countries what happens to the economies 3967 02:46:07,951 --> 02:46:05,870 of our oil infrastructure and and the 3968 02:46:10,741 --> 02:46:07,961 jobs that are there 3969 02:46:12,600 --> 02:46:10,751 if free energy gets introduced all over 3970 02:46:15,180 --> 02:46:12,610 the place and suddenly you take that off 3971 02:46:16,831 --> 02:46:15,190 at the table you know and then you so 3972 02:46:19,381 --> 02:46:16,841 you have to back up from that well then 3973 02:46:21,060 --> 02:46:19,391 you're not spending money on oil anymore 3974 02:46:23,190 --> 02:46:21,070 so you can put that money into other 3975 02:46:26,640 --> 02:46:23,200 places well there's a whole 3976 02:46:29,671 --> 02:46:26,650 infrastructure and an economy that now 3977 02:46:31,980 --> 02:46:29,681 has to get set up based on the free 3978 02:46:36,241 --> 02:46:31,990 energy idea and that goes not only with 3979 02:46:37,890 --> 02:46:36,251 oil but electricity right and we're 3980 02:46:39,451 --> 02:46:37,900 already trying those are you took the 3981 02:46:41,640 --> 02:46:39,461 words right out of my mind and all I'm 3982 02:46:44,251 --> 02:46:41,650 saying is we stop fighting over the old 3983 02:46:46,741 --> 02:46:44,261 goo that powers our world and we start 3984 02:46:49,861 --> 02:46:46,751 fighting over the new goo whatever that 3985 02:46:52,501 --> 02:46:49,871 is space critters are using right start 3986 02:46:54,600 --> 02:46:52,511 fighting over that right let me tell you 3987 02:46:58,111 --> 02:46:54,610 it creates a whole new big kind of bang 3988 02:47:00,661 --> 02:46:58,121 and it'll be accessible it'll be free 3989 02:47:04,591 --> 02:47:00,671 it'll be what can a human being do with 3990 02:47:07,350 --> 02:47:04,601 unlimited source of energy right that's 3991 02:47:09,211 --> 02:47:07,360 frightening so my point is if one starts 3992 02:47:10,951 --> 02:47:09,221 to get real deep into this thing and you 3993 02:47:14,281 --> 02:47:10,961 really start asking the questions more 3994 02:47:16,770 --> 02:47:14,291 than cuz in there who's in that thing 3995 02:47:20,041 --> 02:47:16,780 hey once you get past that you start to 3996 02:47:22,560 --> 02:47:20,051 think Jesus like what is free energy 3997 02:47:24,121 --> 02:47:22,570 it's unlimited right everybody has that 3998 02:47:26,281 --> 02:47:24,131 right they don't necessarily know 3999 02:47:30,121 --> 02:47:26,291 everybody shares our ideals or our uh 4000 02:47:32,551 --> 02:47:30,131 our dream for peace you know so my 4001 02:47:33,991 --> 02:47:32,561 bottom line is that I get it and that 4002 02:47:36,421 --> 02:47:34,001 would if we don't I guess what I'd say 4003 02:47:39,151 --> 02:47:36,431 is if we don't blow ourselves up first 4004 02:47:41,251 --> 02:47:39,161 then yes we get to the new economy we 4005 02:47:44,640 --> 02:47:41,261 get to the new infrastructure we get to 4006 02:47:46,501 --> 02:47:44,650 Star Trek but like what if it makes it 4007 02:47:48,331 --> 02:47:46,511 to where we don't get there right right 4008 02:47:51,180 --> 02:47:48,341 right just leave the audience with that 4009 02:47:53,190 --> 02:47:51,190 question and Rita I love you and I love 4010 02:47:54,841 --> 02:47:53,200 you too Jimmy yeah thank you Eric all 4011 02:47:56,301 --> 02:47:54,851 great points have a great safe night 4012 02:47:59,131 --> 02:47:56,311 we'll see you tomorrow night right here 4013 02:48:00,600 --> 02:47:59,141 thank you my brother but thank you Eric 4014 02:48:04,591 --> 02:48:00,610 those are really really really really 4015 02:48:07,291 --> 02:48:04,601 honest very smart points that he's 4016 02:48:09,810 --> 02:48:07,301 bringing up let me back up to his first 4017 02:48:13,411 --> 02:48:09,820 point though when it comes to Tom 4018 02:48:16,261 --> 02:48:13,421 DeLonge and to the stars let me tell you 4019 02:48:20,430 --> 02:48:16,271 one thing I am really happy about when 4020 02:48:21,810 --> 02:48:20,440 it comes to the long are you ready I am 4021 02:48:26,220 --> 02:48:21,820 happy 4022 02:48:31,020 --> 02:48:26,230 he wants to spend his money on a big PR 4023 02:48:33,541 --> 02:48:31,030 firm okay he is hired I'm not gonna say 4024 02:48:36,930 --> 02:48:33,551 who and I'm not gonna get into that but 4025 02:48:40,620 --> 02:48:36,940 he has got a big PR firm behind him that 4026 02:48:42,930 --> 02:48:40,630 is pushing this agenda out there and I 4027 02:48:45,780 --> 02:48:42,940 thank him for that for spending that 4028 02:48:48,511 --> 02:48:45,790 money spending the shareholders money on 4029 02:48:51,450 --> 02:48:48,521 that maybe some of it's a boy came out 4030 02:48:56,370 --> 02:48:51,460 of his own pocket but it has put it out 4031 02:49:00,930 --> 02:48:56,380 on to CNN Fox BBC RT New York Times 4032 02:49:06,570 --> 02:49:00,940 Washington Post and every other BBC ever 4033 02:49:09,541 --> 02:49:06,580 Skye in every news media outlet online 4034 02:49:12,900 --> 02:49:09,551 and on on TV and satellite in the world 4035 02:49:15,330 --> 02:49:12,910 and and has brought that awareness to 4036 02:49:17,761 --> 02:49:15,340 the front of everything and made it a 4037 02:49:19,830 --> 02:49:17,771 point of discussion no matter how much 4038 02:49:22,921 --> 02:49:19,840 they have stumbled or how much they have 4039 02:49:24,961 --> 02:49:22,931 messed it up at least it is out there 4040 02:49:27,301 --> 02:49:24,971 and being discussed and I'm glad he 4041 02:49:29,070 --> 02:49:27,311 spent the money on it so there you go 4042 02:49:31,080 --> 02:49:29,080 now I'm being serious too you need to 4043 02:49:33,390 --> 02:49:31,090 look at it in those terms let's go to 4044 02:49:38,490 --> 02:49:33,400 the UK Heidi Neill is on the line Heidi 4045 02:49:40,650 --> 02:49:38,500 how are you sweetheart so as usual a 4046 02:49:42,810 --> 02:49:40,660 great show but it's even better that 4047 02:49:48,390 --> 02:49:42,820 you're calling with that absolutely 4048 02:49:55,921 --> 02:49:48,400 fabulous accent just say tea and 4049 02:49:59,430 --> 02:49:55,931 biscuits for me right now it's tea and 4050 02:50:01,140 --> 02:49:59,440 biscuits how are you Heidi I'm super 4051 02:50:03,841 --> 02:50:01,150 excited about on Stella 4052 02:50:05,910 --> 02:50:03,851 I couldn't be more excited you have no 4053 02:50:08,551 --> 02:50:05,920 idea yeah we're pretty excited around 4054 02:50:12,240 --> 02:50:08,561 here and watching everybody in in 4055 02:50:17,671 --> 02:50:12,250 Twitter posting their screen names and 4056 02:50:21,171 --> 02:50:17,681 their screens Wow what support you guys 4057 02:50:24,591 --> 02:50:21,181 you're legends all of you really yeah I 4058 02:50:27,930 --> 02:50:24,601 like to say on behalf of Billy Carson 4059 02:50:30,570 --> 02:50:27,940 again thank you you're awesome he's he's 4060 02:50:33,019 --> 02:50:30,580 getting so much great feedback from the 4061 02:50:35,929 --> 02:50:33,029 interview Thank You Jimmy 4062 02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:35,939 he loves you guys I'm doing a little 4063 02:50:40,519 --> 02:50:37,439 project with him but I can't say too 4064 02:50:42,319 --> 02:50:40,529 much about that just yet and I want to 4065 02:50:45,260 --> 02:50:42,329 do shout out when I shout out but it's a 4066 02:50:48,229 --> 02:50:45,270 call-out really a call to arms myself 4067 02:50:51,800 --> 02:50:48,239 enjoying summer skills the et newsroom 4068 02:50:55,609 --> 02:50:51,810 sure Oh her more than me but I you know 4069 02:50:58,789 --> 02:50:55,619 my own assists like I do we're calling 4070 02:51:01,340 --> 02:50:58,799 out for any experiences that are 4071 02:51:02,809 --> 02:51:01,350 musicians I mean a know grant Cameron is 4072 02:51:04,189 --> 02:51:02,819 obviously that's his fieldwork we're 4073 02:51:07,969 --> 02:51:04,199 talking to him as well about it 4074 02:51:11,569 --> 02:51:07,979 obviously we're basically putting in an 4075 02:51:13,460 --> 02:51:11,579 album together of experiences so like 4076 02:51:15,159 --> 02:51:13,470 songs that they've written with regard 4077 02:51:17,599 --> 02:51:15,169 to what they went through it yet cetera 4078 02:51:19,189 --> 02:51:17,609 and I'm just wondering if anybody knows 4079 02:51:20,899 --> 02:51:19,199 anybody I mean obviously I've got a few 4080 02:51:23,359 --> 02:51:20,909 context and I've put the shout-out out 4081 02:51:24,619 --> 02:51:23,369 there but if anybody can send me 4082 02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:24,629 anything that would be absolutely 4083 02:51:29,630 --> 02:51:27,359 remarkable we've got a few already 4084 02:51:32,659 --> 02:51:29,640 listed but the more the merrier sort of 4085 02:51:35,449 --> 02:51:32,669 thing right on and the the proceeds from 4086 02:51:36,649 --> 02:51:35,459 it when it's when it's made is actually 4087 02:51:38,920 --> 02:51:36,659 going to go to something towards 4088 02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:38,930 something that Joanne's put together 4089 02:51:45,050 --> 02:51:41,279 because a lot of people that have been 4090 02:51:47,889 --> 02:51:45,060 through any sort of comment all of them 4091 02:51:50,840 --> 02:51:47,899 that have had bad experiences have 4092 02:51:53,899 --> 02:51:50,850 basically had their lives put into 4093 02:51:55,939 --> 02:51:53,909 turmoil and quite often being left with 4094 02:51:59,090 --> 02:51:55,949 nothing so it's going to be sort of like 4095 02:52:00,739 --> 02:51:59,100 a support fund for those people that are 4096 02:52:02,929 --> 02:52:00,749 suffering I know it shouldn't be that 4097 02:52:06,260 --> 02:52:02,939 way but there are people that has 4098 02:52:08,510 --> 02:52:06,270 friends family their livelihoods as I'm 4099 02:52:09,859 --> 02:52:08,520 sure you've heard through going through 4100 02:52:11,630 --> 02:52:09,869 something like this so that's what we're 4101 02:52:14,119 --> 02:52:11,640 trying to put together so if you know 4102 02:52:16,099 --> 02:52:14,129 anybody or anybody knows anybody please 4103 02:52:20,719 --> 02:52:16,109 feel free to get holder for myself or 4104 02:52:24,829 --> 02:52:20,729 Joanne at info at the ET newsroom comm 4105 02:52:27,559 --> 02:52:24,839 yeah from me my way as you know I've got 4106 02:52:29,719 --> 02:52:27,569 plenty fingers in plenty of pies I know 4107 02:52:32,090 --> 02:52:29,729 totally totally well do me a favour 4108 02:52:35,599 --> 02:52:32,100 Heidi bust that out on Twitter one more 4109 02:52:37,699 --> 02:52:35,609 time so I can see it and I'll retweet 4110 02:52:40,399 --> 02:52:37,709 and we'll get it out there we'll get it 4111 02:52:42,829 --> 02:52:40,409 out there on Facebook and then soon 4112 02:52:47,500 --> 02:52:42,839 we'll be posting this stuff on on 4113 02:52:47,510 --> 02:52:52,930 I've never had to do a bio on myself 4114 02:53:01,820 --> 02:52:59,690 talking about boys what would you what 4115 02:53:04,550 --> 02:53:01,830 would screen name are D are you just 4116 02:53:07,730 --> 02:53:04,560 using hide email now I tried to use my 4117 02:53:10,790 --> 02:53:07,740 heidi underscore TTFN my youtube and on 4118 02:53:12,560 --> 02:53:10,800 the chatroom name but it wouldn't let me 4119 02:53:15,620 --> 02:53:12,570 use the underscore so I'm actually just 4120 02:53:17,750 --> 02:53:15,630 using my Selina philia and which I use 4121 02:53:19,490 --> 02:53:17,760 on on Twitter so but it's gonna be the 4122 02:53:21,230 --> 02:53:19,500 same profile picture which I use across 4123 02:53:24,320 --> 02:53:21,240 the board so people who recognize me for 4124 02:53:26,390 --> 02:53:24,330 sure yeah but yeah super excited about 4125 02:53:29,330 --> 02:53:26,400 this really really it's not fair you 4126 02:53:31,730 --> 02:53:29,340 guys have done life before we have yeah 4127 02:53:41,000 --> 02:53:31,740 that's right I didn't even think about 4128 02:53:46,580 --> 02:53:41,010 that well so it goes right right did you 4129 02:53:49,340 --> 02:53:46,590 just say that Boop okay oh I got ya I 4130 02:53:53,870 --> 02:53:49,350 got you but yeah this is exciting and 4131 02:53:55,880 --> 02:53:53,880 I'm looking here and we're up to if this 4132 02:53:57,400 --> 02:53:55,890 is accurate we've got a hundred twenty 4133 02:54:02,060 --> 02:53:57,410 eight thousand nine hundred and eighteen 4134 02:54:05,000 --> 02:54:02,070 registered so far and considering that 4135 02:54:08,570 --> 02:54:05,010 we started off at zero and it just hits 4136 02:54:10,940 --> 02:54:08,580 so fast and so quick but but looking at 4137 02:54:14,390 --> 02:54:10,950 this that that's great that our audience 4138 02:54:17,570 --> 02:54:14,400 is that got wind of at first you know 4139 02:54:19,250 --> 02:54:17,580 flocked and when and and did this but 4140 02:54:22,730 --> 02:54:19,260 I'm just so excited for the community 4141 02:54:24,890 --> 02:54:22,740 and it's gonna be such a breath of fresh 4142 02:54:26,360 --> 02:54:24,900 air you know not to be have stuff 4143 02:54:29,090 --> 02:54:26,370 censored and you're talking to people 4144 02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:29,100 that you know don't look at you as if 4145 02:54:33,470 --> 02:54:30,960 you're nuts when you you post some of 4146 02:54:35,120 --> 02:54:33,480 this I mean you as I say you know mail 4147 02:54:38,120 --> 02:54:35,130 and the stuff that I post and I'm a 4148 02:54:40,400 --> 02:54:38,130 promoter and all you see on my on my 4149 02:54:43,100 --> 02:54:40,410 timeline is is stuff about conferences 4150 02:54:46,670 --> 02:54:43,110 and radio shows oh there's and stuff 4151 02:54:49,670 --> 02:54:46,680 like that and Kuzma brings over here 4152 02:54:51,560 --> 02:54:49,680 that I'm connected with I'm sure they've 4153 02:54:52,790 --> 02:54:51,570 all sort of like unfollow me because 4154 02:54:54,620 --> 02:54:52,800 they're really not interested in their 4155 02:54:57,559 --> 02:54:54,630 subject so it's it's going to be such a 4156 02:55:00,920 --> 02:54:57,569 perfect platform for focused 4157 02:55:02,929 --> 02:55:00,930 thoughts and experts and just sharing 4158 02:55:05,689 --> 02:55:02,939 the stuff that we're free to share 4159 02:55:10,010 --> 02:55:05,699 finally I'm so excited the technology 4160 02:55:13,429 --> 02:55:10,020 yeah it's gonna be so cool and I can't 4161 02:55:16,460 --> 02:55:13,439 even believe while the ICL launches here 4162 02:55:19,279 --> 02:55:16,470 in just two weeks 15 days and there's 4163 02:55:22,179 --> 02:55:19,289 that part but then we go big and launch 4164 02:55:25,880 --> 02:55:22,189 the platform itself in quarter three and 4165 02:55:28,340 --> 02:55:25,890 by my math that's like a three months 4166 02:55:31,239 --> 02:55:28,350 away so we're here I mean that's it 4167 02:55:33,979 --> 02:55:31,249 there there's no turning back and and 4168 02:55:37,250 --> 02:55:33,989 this is going to be just an amazing 4169 02:55:39,829 --> 02:55:37,260 amazing time not only for ufology but 4170 02:55:43,579 --> 02:55:39,839 I'm just excited for our community in 4171 02:55:47,119 --> 02:55:43,589 general because this having something 4172 02:55:49,399 --> 02:55:47,129 like this Heidi that is forward-thinking 4173 02:55:51,769 --> 02:55:49,409 you know having the blockchain in social 4174 02:55:56,929 --> 02:55:51,779 media having the first new social media 4175 02:56:00,500 --> 02:55:56,939 platform launching this big but is for 4176 02:56:02,659 --> 02:56:00,510 our community and and for for the first 4177 02:56:05,199 --> 02:56:02,669 time we're able to just unite and and 4178 02:56:08,119 --> 02:56:05,209 and and have something this big this 4179 02:56:09,859 --> 02:56:08,129 important done for the community and 4180 02:56:13,069 --> 02:56:09,869 that's what I'm so happy about I 4181 02:56:16,279 --> 02:56:13,079 couldn't be happier myself and Rita the 4182 02:56:18,139 --> 02:56:16,289 the the work that everybody at Han 4183 02:56:20,510 --> 02:56:18,149 stellar has put into this and I'm 4184 02:56:20,899 --> 02:56:20,520 speaking around the world and across the 4185 02:56:24,290 --> 02:56:20,909 board 4186 02:56:27,290 --> 02:56:24,300 the team has been so committed and to 4187 02:56:29,449 --> 02:56:27,300 have these technical people that are 4188 02:56:31,040 --> 02:56:29,459 have designed the site and and the 4189 02:56:33,949 --> 02:56:31,050 investors and the people that are behind 4190 02:56:35,769 --> 02:56:33,959 it are they know more about UFOs than 4191 02:56:38,329 --> 02:56:35,779 you do Heidi 4192 02:56:39,829 --> 02:56:38,339 it'll trip you out you know and it's 4193 02:56:43,699 --> 02:56:39,839 just like okay this is real they are 4194 02:56:47,449 --> 02:56:43,709 actually involved and they have the same 4195 02:56:53,239 --> 02:56:47,459 commitment to this as I do or you do or 4196 02:56:57,199 --> 02:56:53,249 anybody else in our community so and 4197 02:56:59,899 --> 02:56:57,209 when I went along to the erich von 4198 02:57:03,170 --> 02:56:59,909 daniken night at the BAFTAs in london 4199 02:57:06,050 --> 02:57:03,180 last year mm-hmm in my usual fashion I 4200 02:57:08,239 --> 02:57:06,060 turned up two hours early like I do and 4201 02:57:09,859 --> 02:57:08,249 rolled my sleeves up and got involved in 4202 02:57:10,880 --> 02:57:09,869 is that working for the evening and you 4203 02:57:13,040 --> 02:57:10,890 could see 4204 02:57:14,809 --> 02:57:13,050 I mean that was one big event I mean to 4205 02:57:17,960 --> 02:57:14,819 be held at the bastards in London that 4206 02:57:20,119 --> 02:57:17,970 is a pretty huge deal huge deal yeah and 4207 02:57:22,159 --> 02:57:20,129 so the minute I started doing with 4208 02:57:24,139 --> 02:57:22,169 working with working alongside however 4209 02:57:27,050 --> 02:57:24,149 you want to say it with these guys and 4210 02:57:28,130 --> 02:57:27,060 they but it's so professionally done 4211 02:57:32,090 --> 02:57:28,140 it's it's just 4212 02:57:34,519 --> 02:57:32,100 Buber impressive uber impressive and to 4213 02:57:36,439 --> 02:57:34,529 be involved at the base level is just 4214 02:57:38,449 --> 02:57:36,449 you know you feel so privileged 4215 02:57:40,909 --> 02:57:38,459 everybody that signing up today should 4216 02:57:42,319 --> 02:57:40,919 feel silver should feel privileged we 4217 02:57:46,219 --> 02:57:42,329 are sort of a part of history 4218 02:57:48,199 --> 02:57:46,229 effectively massive and and that's and 4219 02:57:51,469 --> 02:57:48,209 that's my point Heidi I gotta go I got a 4220 02:57:53,389 --> 02:57:51,479 close the show and roll credits here but 4221 02:57:55,159 --> 02:57:53,399 thank you so much for everything in your 4222 02:57:56,540 --> 02:57:55,169 support and we'll see you tomorrow night 4223 02:57:56,929 --> 02:57:56,550 right here on fade to black Thank You 4224 02:58:03,880 --> 02:57:56,939 Heidi 4225 02:58:06,949 --> 02:58:03,890 giving us the on stellar updates and 4226 02:58:09,199 --> 02:58:06,959 have you registered you go and you 4227 02:58:11,540 --> 02:58:09,209 register and then you get to go back and 4228 02:58:14,449 --> 02:58:11,550 choose your screen name make it all 4229 02:58:18,319 --> 02:58:14,459 happen be a part of history on stellar 4230 02:58:20,000 --> 02:58:18,329 dot-com promo code Jimmy like I said 4231 02:58:20,269 --> 02:58:20,010 last night on the show and I really mean 4232 02:58:23,359 --> 02:58:20,279 this 4233 02:58:25,580 --> 02:58:23,369 you will remember where you were the day 4234 02:58:28,819 --> 02:58:25,590 that I'm stellar launched and that day 4235 02:58:31,819 --> 02:58:28,829 is today on stellar dot-com thank you to 4236 02:58:33,979 --> 02:58:31,829 grant Cameron Heidi Neil the best 4237 02:58:36,229 --> 02:58:33,989 this is fade to black I'm your host 4238 02:58:37,760 --> 02:58:36,239 Jimmy church paid to Black's executive 4239 02:58:39,679 --> 02:58:37,770 producers ritika Marie Allen shows 4240 02:58:41,899 --> 02:58:39,689 produced by Holmes Jay Paul Renee Dennis 4241 02:58:44,330 --> 02:58:41,909 and Bob announces our Steve Carter gene 4242 02:58:47,090 --> 02:58:44,340 Vltava Marc D Kovar webmaster drew the 4243 02:58:49,880 --> 02:58:47,100 geek music doug aldrich intros space 4244 02:58:53,029 --> 02:58:49,890 boys space boy music calm fade to black 4245 02:58:57,139 --> 02:58:53,039 is produced by kjsurya and syndication 4246 02:58:59,389 --> 02:58:57,149 as kg ra the planet was broadcast on a 4247 02:59:00,559 --> 02:58:59,399 copyright of 2018 by fade to black in 4248 02:59:02,779 --> 02:59:00,569 the game changer network 4249 02:59:04,340 --> 02:59:02,789 it cannot be rebroadcast downloaded 4250 02:59:06,559 --> 02:59:04,350 copied or used anywhere in the known 4251 02:59:08,149 --> 02:59:06,569 universe without written permission from 4252 02:59:10,010 --> 02:59:08,159 fade to black or the game changer 4253 02:59:14,449 --> 02:59:10,020 network i'm your host jimmy church 4254 02:59:16,219 --> 02:59:14,459 tomorrow night radio host Tim Ray joins 4255 02:59:18,979 --> 02:59:16,229 this show you're not gonna want to miss 4256 02:59:19,920 --> 02:59:18,989 that until tomorrow night everybody be 4257 02:59:23,200 --> 02:59:19,930 saved 4258 02:59:37,490 --> 02:59:23,210 go back Lee tappy